Tech IndustryJul 19, 2019
DellLUHV04

Engineering leader thinking of moving to Google TPM

Hello All, First off, thank you to everyone that has answered my past pesky queries. Background: 1. Currently a director of engineering leading a global engineering team. YOE – 11 years, TC - ~ 210K USD. 2. I don’t have confidence in my current company, product, and don’t see any more growth where I am. 3. I recently tried a google management interview for SRE. Most of the rounds went well. Tried my best in system design and did solve the problem, but looks like I wasn’t upto what interviewer wanted, also I didn’t give a perfect solution for one coding interview. Beliefs: 1. I firmly believe a recession is coming within a year or two. In such recession times, its best to be at a company like google. My strengths: 1. Project and people management, can do coding (not super hard problems), understand and can do moderately well on system design. My thoughts: 1. Since my current group is potentially going to die, try for technical program manager role at google. If it works, take it and prep for leadership roles at google in future. Requests: 1. Based on my background - Is it worth (setting myself up for success) taking up a technical program management role with Google? 2. Once I am a Technical program manager at google, would google give me a fair shot at future leadership roles? Or my moving away from leadership role would be taken negatively? 3. Once in google, for future interviews – are the interview rounds same as what an external candidate has to go thru? Or is it lateral move where you know the hiring manager and make a move? 4. In terms of salary, I have read that – Regardless of job duty and role, Salary is depending on levels (l4, l5 etc.). Based on my background, what Level for technical program management should I be requesting from the recruiters? Thank you. edit - i am not based ot of silicon valley , and in a medium cost east coast area.

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Facebook ⭕w⭕ Jul 19, 2019

You're not an "engineering leader" with that TC lmao. Get your head out of your ass; and based on how you assume you already got in to Google in your questions, you'll need to really try hard to get your head out of there.

Dell LUHV04 OP Jul 19, 2019

Sorry wasn’t trying to give the impression that I already made it. I am trying to make sure I take the right steps with help from blind members

The Home Depot joppkopit Jul 19, 2019

Wow I am amazed by the arrogance of a few FAANG guys here. OP clearly says he/she is a director of engineering, how is that not leadership? TC does not define role, title and company policies determine that. Plus we still don't know OP's location. 210k is not "lmao" worthy for tier2-3 cities. If OP is in Texas, an equivalent comp for Bay area would be 350 easily.

Oracle alwzangry Jul 19, 2019

People from strictly hierarchical organizations, think of, and measure an individual's leadership capabilities in terms of their employer's pay ranges and by the count of how many people report to them. That's also where we hear vocabulary like 'resources' to refer to people.

Google qFjI86 Jul 19, 2019

Why do u think recession is coming ? I have been hearing it from 5 years now. Have your thought about moving to similar roles in day lenovo etc ?

Dell LUHV04 OP Jul 19, 2019

My points on recession - Housing market is wobbly Stocks are up and down a bit There is general noise around market recession Bit of gut feel on my part Lenovo etc aren’t stable companies

Netflix petepants Jul 20, 2019

These reasons are kinda childish, I am sorry, but it’s ridiculous