Engineering roles for data scientist

Walmart silicon1
Sep 30 33 Comments

I’m a data scientist who drank the industry kool aid about how great the data science field is and now I need to get out.

I have python scripting experience but very little Leetcode and I need to switch to an SWE/MLE role by Feb end next year.

I’m not targetting FAANG engineering jobs as of yet since I know I’m not at that level yet. What are other companies I can target to get a foot in the door for MLE positions?

4 yoe TC - 90k

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TOP 33 Comments
  • “Data scientist” with 90K TC? You sound more like a data analyst
    Sep 30 2
    • Facebook ⭕w⭕
      same thing.
      Sep 30
    • Uber / Data Guiliani
      Not outside of Facebook my friend :) Data Scientists are not product analysts at Uber.
      Sep 30
  • Zynga parott
    Data science is a scam without a PHD.Pm me-I was in your situation and got out of it.
    Sep 30 14
    • Deloitte / Consultant cero
      @op yeah better switch to engineering or get mba
      Sep 30
    • Axtria KzhH222
      @zynga please let us know any recommended books, videos, or other resources

      @deloitte by switching to engineering, do you mean getting a ms cs degree?
      Sep 30
    • Deloitte / Consultant cero
      no i mean getting a software/data engineering job
      Sep 30
    • Google awooo
      How about ML engineer?
      Sep 30
    • Walmart silicon1
      OP
      Yeah, MLE is a good move too. What are some good Non-FAANG companies I can target for such a move though?
      Sep 30
  • eBay abababbb
    I feel there are high paying data scientist and swe as well as low paying ones..all depends on your skills and how smart you are..if you’re doing the move just for money do you feel like you’re top 5%? Top10%? If you’re not then don’t even expect 200k tc even as a swe..the effort might not serve your purpose
    Sep 30 3
    • Walmart silicon1
      OP
      Yes, I get your point. But I think the data scientists who are getting well paid are those with a PhD in ML or of same skill set. And as a masters graduate, I think I have a better chance of getting a bigger salary as a SWE/MLE.
      Sep 30
    • New LC_HARD
      Good MLE roles will go to PhD ML grads who weren't good enough for industry RS roles. If you only have a Master's, you still will make 90K as MLE.

      Let's say there are 5 PhD ML new grads each year from each school who didn't make it to RS or academia. Take the top 100 schools. You're still looking at 500 fresh PhD ML grads each year gunning for MLE roles.
      Sep 30
    • Walmart silicon1
      OP
      If @LC_HARD is right, then the only roles where a non-PhD can earn well in the market consistently is the traditional SWE role. If that’s the case, making the pivot to SWE through a half-decent MLE position makes sense no?
      Oct 1
  • New rNBL74
    May I ask what you dislike about it? I am an engineer thinking of getting a master's in data science.
    Sep 30 2
    • Walmart silicon1
      OP
      If you don’t have a PhD, the chances of you earning big in top tech companies as a DS is slim to none. Better get an MS in CS, grind leetcode and get into SWE.
      Sep 30
    • Axtria KzhH222
      Agree with OP more than 100%. In big companies that pay well, you will be restricted to data analyst type jobs (no matter what the title is). The good work and high pay goes to PhD holders.
      Sep 30
  • Axtria KzhH222
    Totally relatable. Data scientist here with low pay and this field sucks. Shouldn't have pursued this. I want to move to swe ml. Pm me if you want to discuss/prepare together.
    Sep 30 1
    • Taylor Farms azerty_
      I am PMing too :)
      Sep 30
  • Walmart iwtbam
    Are you located at BV or CA? I have seen people moving to amazon, apple to DS roles with prev experience as a DS at walmart with MS
    Sep 30 1
    • Walmart silicon1
      OP
      Yes, but the pay is better for SWEs in these companies right? That’s why I’m looking to move there.
      Oct 1
  • Amazon / Data xEYb07
    I'm a first year SQL monkey and I'm considering the same thing. Should I learn more technical (pivot to data engineer, potentially SWE) or analytics (hop around companies then climb corporate ladder)? 1 yoe 80k tc
    Sep 30 1
    • Axtria KzhH222
      If you want to stay in analytics, move to the management as quickly as possible. If you want to stay IC, move DE or swe
      Sep 30
  • Apple BbAR66
    What’s your take on ml product / program manager job prospects?
    Sep 30 0
  • Deloitte / Consultant cero
    are you working at Jet or something? ya f that
    Sep 30 0

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