Engineers at 'unlimited' vacation companies, how long do you actually take?
In the previous years many companies have started to enact 'unlimited' vacation policies. We all know it's a lie because if you take more vacation than what is expected then you're PIP'ed and shown the door.
Where is the none option? Or at least < a week?
True, for couple years I took no vacation at all to ensure deadline.
Taking 5 weeks this summer and 2 weeks around xmas. Add a few days here and there, so at least 8 weeks this year.
Is it normal at Indeed? If not, do you feel like your manager and your coworkers subtly hint you at the fact you might be taking too much?
Your mileage might vary depending on team and office. I typically stack my PTO so it is less of a distraction but I would say 8 weeks feel like on the higher end, although I believe some folks take even more than I do.
I used to take around 7-8 weeks at my previous company. Miss that benefit so much.
What was your previous company? How much do you take at G?
Groupon. G is 3 weeks for the first couple of years. Can stretch it a bit with āworking from homeā but no where near what Iām used to.
I used to work at a startup that got acquired by a bigger company that did unlimited PTO. We inherited their policy and I took around 7 weeks off that year, I just needed my direct managers approval who was the same manager I had for 3 years and was super chill.
We have unlimited, but recently a team member got capped at 23 days. This was not mentioned to our team, and no one knew there was an unofficial limit until she hit that. This might just be my team being strict about DTO.
Interesting, 3.5 weeks isn't close to unlimited at all. Is it maybe a kind of a ban in case of repeated abuses?
Well, itās end of May and sheās out of vacation. Itās about 4.5 weeks only counting business days, but youāre right, itās not anywhere near unlimited. Trust me, we are livid.
Well 4.5 weeks after 5/12ths of the year = tracking to almost 11 weeks for the year. That seems not sustainable, but agree itās an uncool response to enforce surprise āhard cap thru end of yearā
GitHub gives you as many weeks as you would like as long as you can deliver on time. I usually take abou 3 weeks (no laptop), 2 weeks with partial (less than 2 hrs a day), and 1 week with half working days. The rest of the time, I work 50hr weeks, on average. But not everyone has to do it, I'm obsessed with results, dont have kids, and I get compensated proportionally- so I do it.
As an outsider not living in SV 50 hours sounds extremely high to me. What's the median work time at GitHub? When you say proportionally, does GitHub pay per hour?
Yeah, 50 (avg) is high for SV as well. I basically work most of the time. I learn new things in my personal time (selfishly), implement them at work, get good results with high reliability. That's what takes time. And I am fortunate to have an amazing manager who is never afraid to fight to get his team, recognition, great raises, bonuses, and promotions - my entire team feels that way. That is what I mean by proportionally. I mean sometimes, I work 15 hours straight for a week to deliver high priority projects and i get a Internal team post + gift basket + dinner rez for my wife and me from my manager on Fri 4pm (this is the kind of manager I want to have and always be!!)
Poll options suck; ranges would be better. I averaged 4-5 weeks/year of PTO when I worked st unlimited places.
If I put ranges instead, another guy like you would complain that he takes exactly 4 weeks so he's between two ranges and the poll options suck because using a range is stupid.
Our team requires at least one week off per quarter; flexible, but not negotiable. You have to be off the entire week and disconnected for it to count. It's not uncommon for people to take more.
Sounds like a great team! Can GitHub do Winter internships?
10 weeks?! Which company allows that much?
No company, this choice is a troll net so that the rest of the poll can be reliable.
I see you know how to poll ššš