Show me a poor US neighborhood and I’ll show you where the pollution from factories used to settle. 5 points in Manhattan was the low point where waste water used to collect, south central Los Angeles to Long Beach is where port and factory pollution would collect. Richmond Ca still has an abnormally high cancer rate due to pollution. West Oakland was where the trains stopped and loaded. In many parts of the world beach-land is where the shanties are. Our rulers can laugh off pollution and environmental change because they think it won’t effect the rich. People In urban slums and rural industry towns are the ones who pay the price first for pollution and climate change. This should be the focus of environmentalism, not the abstract (and often elitist) environmentalism of the recent past. https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2019/mar/27/people-are-dying-ocasio-cortez-delivers-fiery-speech-on-climate-inaction-video
Clean air and water has nothing to do with climate change policy.
Yeah... aside from pipelines and energy plants and factories.
If any of the above are causing actual effects on real people right now, I’m sure most people would agree that we should solve those problems.
I think you got the causation in reverse... Pollution / trash/ sewage goes somewhere or is mismanaged -> can cause cancer -> rich people go elsewhere and demand goes down -> prices go down -> poorer people that look for cheaper housing in the city where the jobs are move in
And it is wrong to say that the 99% live there. It is actually most people that can afford not to.
Yes, I think it’s correlation related to a number of factors. I can see how my post makes it sound like pollution causes slums, but my point was more about who gets the impact from these things. As far as causation of modern slums, rich people never lived in Flint or logging towns or South Central LA. I think the real pattern of the last half century+ has been more or less creating working class neighborhoods near big factories, ports, or rail lines in order to draw in a workforce. People try to build equity and then those factories relocate causing older or retired workers to be stranded and then the cities pull funding for services because of de-industrialization and the loss of property value. In small rural towns, a version of this happens too. Earlier slums or slums in developing economies were/are created in waste-lands and there was/is direct causation there. But again, my point about pollution was more about who gets the consequences. My motivation in posting is that liberals and conservatives tend to view environmentalism as something abstract (“save the whales”) instead of as a real socio-political thing impacting real communities and real people.
Pollution and Climate Change are not exactly the same. We need to remove noise, water, air pollution but climate change is more about CO2 in air. Democrats, the party of Ocasio-Cortez and Sanders, are focusing only on the climate change here.
Democrats only talk about climate change, they focus on helping energy companies.
And they aren't even really solving climate change, just proposing ways to funnel ca$$$h to their cronies like Elon. Want to reduce carbon emissions? The only "green tech" that works are nuclear and LNG. Solar wind and hydro are a scam or niche solution
Very well said
> it won’t effect the rich Half the South Bay neighborhoods are Superfund sites tho. And prices are still obscene.
Rich, not simply wealthy. But the rich will still loose some beach-houses. They’ll have to settle for their compounds in the Rockies I guess.
PEOPLE WILL DIE https://youtu.be/eXWhbUUE4ko
PEOPLE ARE DYING! https://twitter.com/cnnpolitics/status/1110954921497686020
I know eh Tell that to the dems who did not support this looney Bill
Thank you President Trump for reversing climate change 🙏🙏
She’s such a loon
Idk man meatpacking is one of the most expensive neighbourhoods in nyc and it used to be a dump.
5 points isn’t a slum now either - now that there’s sewage in the city. ...it’s almost like we have to invest in infrastructure and quality of life improvements or something 🤷♂️
So you for gentrification?