Evaluate Apple's offer

Amazon jafslg
Sep 16 55 Comments

For software engineer, ICT4:
Yoe: 4 + master's degree
Org: Siri
Base: 180k
Stock: 350k
Signing bonus: 80k
Annual cash bonus: 10-20% of the base
Annual stock refresher (for average performer): 100k (over 4 years)

The numbers are after negotiation, and based on what the recruiter said. Could someone from Apple please verify the annual refresher and bonus numbers? Is it really that high? (Yea, I'm coming from Amazon who has zero refreshers!)

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TOP 55 Comments
  • Did they ask LC & System design/OOD? Thank you.
    Sep 16 8
    • Goldman Sachs babachu
      How did you prepare for system design? Did your work at AWS help you with preparation?
      Sep 16
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Not in AWS, but yes my daily job at Amazon helped me a lot with the system design. I did read a blog for like 6 hours, it was mostly a summary of main points, which was a good thing. But mainly my job helped me. Thanks Amazon!
      Sep 16
    • NASA qKln23
      What blog?
      Sep 16
    • Microsoft / Eng kwodk
      yes i want to learn from u
      Sep 16
    • Microsoft / Eng kwodk
      which blog?
      Sep 16
  • Apple ladlod
    Stock refresher varies from team to team at Apple. Which org is this position with? In any case, these are the best case scenario numbers.
    Sep 16 18
    • Google rdjE16
      I am about to join Siri Search from T5, my offer is higher but I do have FB E5 competing offer.
      Sep 16
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Ok, I understand you don't want to share your offer details as we might become teammates! Can I know how many yoe do you have?
      Sep 16
    • Google rdjE16
      PhD + 4 yoe. So ICT4 range can be very wide, I heard there is even Google T6 join as ICT4.
      Sep 16
    • Google rdjE16
      Google T5 is 350-400k per year, so Apple/FB offer is a bit more since they want me to join, so they cannot give me a lower one :) But let's see how refresh goes.
      Sep 16
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Ah I see. Yes I've heard it's very wide. Messaged you about the reasons you may choose Apple over Fb. It'd be great if you can answer. Thanks
      Sep 16
  • Facebook / Eng CGoa41
    YEO?
    Sep 16 2
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      4
      Sep 16
    • Facebook / Eng CGoa41
      Then take it, looks solid
      Sep 16
  • Apple YIjr27
    Solid. For refreshers, if you rock you could get more actually. I got 150k and 160k the past 2 years for example. As your experience is low, you may have to compete with more experienced ICT4 in your team and it is possible you will have to settle for less, like 70k for example. So shooting for 100k is realistic.
    Sep 16 1
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Thanks for the info man
      Sep 16
  • Uber hbbb
    Solid offer for 4 yoe
    Sep 16 1
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Thanks. I think my hard work paid off :)
      Sep 16
  • Apple biatch
    Definitely a great offer for your YOE
    Sep 16 0
  • Apple / Eng
    banana-man

    Apple Eng

    PRE
    Amazon
    banana-manmore
    Very nice offer
    Sep 16 0
  • Goldman Sachs babachu
    Hey mind sharing your interview experience ? Also do you have specific skills in NLP or search relevance?how tough were coding questions?
    Sep 16 2
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Not specific industry skills, but I do have master's degree and my thesis was in ML. (Not search, but image recognition)
      Sep 16
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      The coding questions were fine. Mostly easy-medium. One DP.
      Sep 16
  • Juniper / Eng sixpack
    YOE? Which org or team? Is this initial offer or negotiated one?
    Sep 16 2
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Updated
      Sep 16
    • PayPal / Eng
      Ohgu

      PayPal Eng

      PRE
      Intel Corporation
      Ohgumore
      Which team is it? Not mentioned .
      Sep 16
  • Apple gghhr
    Damn I should go back to Apple.
    Sep 16 1
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Where are you now?
      Sep 16
  • Analog Devices icando
    This is a great offer.
    Sep 16 0
  • Apple RoidRage
    What org is this? Seems really high for 4 YOE. Congrats!
    Sep 16 5
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Updated. 4 yoe and a master's degree. Thanks
      Sep 16
    • Apple RoidRage
      This is still higher than my original offer and I had 11 years of experience back then
      Sep 16
    • Apple RoidRage
      What org?
      Sep 16
    • Amazon jafslg
      OP
      Siri
      Sep 16
    • Apple RoidRage
      Makes sense
      Sep 16
  • Microsoft / Eng kwodk
    op from the interview time I can tell u interviewed the same position with me, u are the winner and im the loser:) Congrats.

    How to prepare the system design rounds? blog ot materials etc?
    Sep 16 1
    • PayPal / Eng v3nm0
      Why was the level/type of questions for coding rounds, if you'd kindly share?
      Nov 8
  • Microsoft manAtArms
    Location please?
    Sep 16 0

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