Evaluate Facebook E5 Offer

Affirm OQFg38
Apr 21 69 Comments

5 YOE. Got an E5 offer from Facebook initially as:
Base: 205K
RSU: 700K / 4 years
Sign-on: 100K
Bonus: 15%

Any space to negotiate?

Edit: not in AI/ML area
Edit 2: my current TC is much higher than this, although most part is paper money. Not a troll post.

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  • Facebook SocialEng
    What role?
    Apr 21 8
    • Affirm OQFg38
      OP
      IC, targeted to move to E6 shortly
      Apr 21
    • Facebook / Eng deleteFB
      What does targeted to move to E6 mean? That seems like a recruiter trick.
      Apr 21
    • Cadence / Product luna.
      Internalize what fb said
      Apr 21
    • Google Mr. Glass
      It’s a trick - you won’t move to E6 anytime soon.
      Apr 22
    • Affirm OQFg38
      OP
      Most likely. I was asking for E6, but only got E5. I am already staff SWE in my current company.
      Apr 22
    • Google Mr. Glass
      You are a gullible noob fool. Keep expecting an E6 - ignore the warnings here
      Apr 23
    • Facebook AdaGrad
      Staff SWE at Affirm != E6 at FB
      Apr 23
    • Affirm OQFg38
      OP
      I mean I understand it is most likely a trick. I got more information from my friends at FB. It’s best to join as E5 with high end pay. Not safe to hit the ground with E6. Since sign on is good, it is worthy staying at least for the first year, and then figure out plan from there.
      Apr 23
  • Google praise
    It is in L6 range. Solid offer.
    Apr 21 4
    • Amazon mOwGLee
      +1 in the L6 range. You must have killed it to get such an offer to begin with for an E5. Congrats.
      Apr 21
    • Google Mr. Glass
      Yeah, he can retire in 5 years if he plays it right, assuming he’s really at 5 YOE.
      Apr 22
    • Affirm OQFg38
      OP
      How is it possible to retire in 5 years, given such a high tax in CA?
      Apr 23
    • Google Mr. Glass
      FB stock price has room to grow +40% in next couple of years
      Apr 23
  • Oracle hffj268
    For what it's worth, I got the exact same offer a few weeks back
    Apr 21 12
    • Microsoft ImAwesome
      Can you share?
      Apr 21
    • Oracle hffj268
      Share what? My fb offer is identical to what op posted.
      Apr 21
    • Microsoft ImAwesome
      Oh no, you’re current pay
      Apr 21
    • Google / Eng
      qEGt36

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Bloomberg
      qEGt36more
      Can you share YOE?
      Apr 22
    • Google / Eng
      qEGt36

      Google Eng

      PRE
      Bloomberg
      qEGt36more
      How did you progress to that TC at Oracle?
      Apr 22
    • Oracle hffj268
      I don't think I did anything special. Just do meaningful work and comp will come naturally
      Apr 22
    • Google praise
      ^^ is total BS.
      Apr 22
    • New mrg
      My OCI pay was also higher than my FB offer. But the pay structure is more transparent and refreshers more consistent at FB.
      Apr 22
    • Microsoft ImAwesome
      Really??? Wth? Mind if I ask what your OCI pay is?
      Apr 22
    • New mrg
      DM’d.
      Apr 22
  • Google
    AIMLOK

    Google

    BIO
    I once served 5TB
    AIMLOKmore
    5 YOE, lol nice
    Apr 21 0
  • Google bobnelson
    Its a solid offer. Do you have any competing offers? I think you might be able to get a bit more RSU’s if you got an offer from airbnb or similar
    Apr 21 1
    • Affirm OQFg38
      OP
      I'm not actively looking for new opportunities, and haven't interview with other companies. So no competing offer...
      Apr 21
  • Facebook / Eng deleteFB
    This looks like an E6 offer. So no, no room for negotiations without competing offers, lol
    Apr 21 0
  • Apple parking
    Seems like a troll offer. No way FB offers this off the bat without competing offers when they could get you for much lower TC
    Apr 21 6
    • Facebook ☑️
      u jelly?
      Apr 21
    • Apple parking
      You are at FB. You tell me? Did they low ball you 😂
      Apr 21
    • Facebook ☑️
      Compared to OP yeah but I'm not jelly, happy for him or her.
      Apr 21
    • Google Mr. Glass
      Apple guy got owned 😂
      Apr 22
    • Apple llun\ved\
      I am jealous! 🙃
      Apr 22
    • Facebook / Ops miikescott
      Lol Apple.
      Apr 22
  • Lam Research rektkid
    I feel this is a troll. Unless OP is a genius from Stanford or MIT
    Apr 21 1
    • Google Mr. Glass
      Yep. Fishing for fake compliments after probably failing interviews. Trying to incite envy as a way of getting even in some twisted way.
      Apr 22
  • Facebook whodattt
    Never seen above 200k base at E5 initial offers. Thats pretty crazy. This offer is def top 1-5%
    Apr 22 0
  • Morgan Stanley hotChicken
    Negociate a few tee-shirts and ask where to sign.
    Apr 21 0
  • Quora eNHU01
    Same offer, same yoe, dmed you.
    Apr 21 0
  • Pinterest woxjendis
    Get 450 TC. Ask for more RSUs
    Sign on is huge btw
    Apr 22 4
    • Google Mr. Glass
      It’s more than 450, given that minimum yearly stock refresh is 120k
      Apr 22
    • Pinterest woxjendis
      I’m talking about first year. Most of people don’t stay too long at FB
      Apr 22
    • Google Mr. Glass
      That’s why sign on is 100k first year duh. That brings first year comp north of 500k
      Apr 23
    • Pinterest woxjendis
      Then it’s high
      Apr 23
  • Oracle / Eng LCg
    So sign on at FB has to be returned if you leave before one year? Thats a huge sign on
    Apr 21 3
    • Affirm OQFg38
      OP
      Yes, one year is required to keep the sign on
      Apr 21
    • Facebook ycAq13
      U keep prorated portion
      Apr 21
    • Oracle / Eng I@m
      But to keep whole amount you have to be there only a year right?
      Apr 21
  • Facebook nTuR06
    are you in AI/ML?
    Apr 21 2
    • Affirm OQFg38
      OP
      No. general backend SWE
      Apr 21
    • Facebook nTuR06
      You then have the best deal. E5 expectations with E6 money. 😀
      Apr 21
  • Facebook nTuR06
    Are you pre allocated? Trying to think which director would have blessed the offer.
    Apr 21 2
    • Oracle / Eng LCg
      What does pre allocated mean?
      Apr 21
    • Facebook nTuR06
      Your group is fixed. You won’t go through bootcamp team selection process
      Apr 21
  • Lam Research rektkid
    Man crazy offer. Is this AI/ML?
    Apr 21 0
  • Facebook a000000000
    Ohhhhhhh, congrats
    Apr 21 0
  • Congrats! Amazing offer
    Apr 21 0
  • Zynga CuriousABC
    lgtm
    Apr 21 0
  • Drive.ai djl
    Congrats!
    Apr 25 0
  • Facebook AdaGrad
    Fantastic offer, top of E5. Congratulations!
    Apr 23 0
  • Microsoft KrazyIvan
    Accept it ASAP
    Apr 21 0
  • Oscar 🐨koala
    Congrats!!!!!
    Apr 21 0
  • Microsoft Throw554
    What did your trajectory look at your current company?
    Apr 21 0
  • Microsoft no-sql
    Congrats, how was interview process? Any guidance?
    Apr 21 0
  • Google watdduck
    Damn nice offer ! Congratulations!
    Apr 21 0

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