Evaluate Uber L5B EM offer

Amazon / Eng MRbH17
May 17 41 Comments

Current offer, for L5B EM in Eats:
- 210 base
- $1.06M in RSUs over 4 years (1 year cliff, vests monthly after)
- Target bonus 28k (0-2x)

RSUs converted from dollar amount to shares on 16th of month after starting.

Any particular thoughts or areas to negotiate? Any other post-IPO offers to compare?

9 yoe / 4 yoe as EM
SDMIII (L6) at Amazon

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  • Facebook
    Instagrаm

    Facebook

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    Google, Microsoft
    Instagrаmmore
    Goto FB Seattle for biggest $$
    May 17 10
    • Facebook fucky
      Uber pays what a top FB would be for same level
      May 17
    • Facebook
      Instagrаm

      Facebook

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      Google, Microsoft
      Instagrаmmore
      The thing is FB pays equally within the US, and Seattle is much cheaper than SF. Thus, Seattle FB is the best place ever for big $$, in general.
      May 17
    • Microsoft no.problem
      Uber is in Seattle too, right? 🐼
      May 17
    • Facebook
      Instagrаm

      Facebook

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      Google, Microsoft
      Instagrаmmore
      FB E6 would beat that 5B offer:
      220 base, 20% bonus, 1.2M stock, no cliff.
      May 17
    • Microsoft zisissb
      1.2m must be the max of band? Only heard 1m
      May 17
  • Groupon OP19
    This seems to be a very solid offer. Try get some sign on ~50k should be reasonable. How is refresh like at Uber?
    May 17 0
  • Does EM start from L5B ? Or are there L5A EMs too ?
    Where are Senior EMs leveled ?
    May 18 7
    • Also are EM1 hired from outside or are they mostly homegrown ?
      May 18
    • Uber lock_up
      EM1s are usually new managers at Uber or managers with very less experience < 3 years as manager). EM1s are always line managers. EM2s can be line managers or can have managers reporting to them.
      May 18
    • Uber lock_up
      TLMs can also be L5a or L5b. They normally have only 5 or less direct reports and spend a part of them time on IC work.
      May 18
    • New Screwy
      Can TLMs be fresh external senior hires (new L5A/L5Bs) ?
      May 19
    • Uber lock_up
      Not sure about that
      May 19
  • Uber lock_up
    This is a great offer. Congrats!
    May 18 0
  • Google / Eng
    qEGt36

    Google Eng

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    Bloomberg
    qEGt36more
    NYC?
    May 17 1
    • Amazon / Eng MRbH17
      OP
      SF
      May 18
  • New qertzcv
    What is B in L5B
    May 17 1
    • Amazon / Eng MRbH17
      OP
      Uber split up L5 into two levels: L5A and L5B. levels.fyi is your friend
      May 17
  • New / IT BcDM68
    Do you have any couter offers?
    How many rounds of onsite interview you had?
    May 17 5
    • Amazon / Eng MRbH17
      OP
      No
      Just one on-site. 6 interviews, 1hr each.
      May 17
    • New Screwy
      Distribution of coding / design / behavioral ? Is it design heavy ?
      May 19
    • Amazon / Eng MRbH17
      OP
      Zero coding. 1/3 design, 2/3 behavioral.
      May 19
    • New Screwy
      Were all of the behavioral STAR format ?
      May 20
    • Amazon / Eng MRbH17
      OP
      No, not really. You can always answer in that structured format, though.
      May 20
  • Facebook vFfi02
    No sign on bonus?
    Target bonus should be around 20%, 28k sounds too little to me.
    Cliff is a red flag. Most companies (F/G) don't have it.
    May 18 3
    • Uber lock_up
      I wouldn’t call the 1 year cliff a red flag. It is pretty standard. F/G are probably the only 2 companies without the 1 year cliff and they only recently switched.
      May 18
    • Not sure standard is the right word but fwiw Apple also no longer has a cliff either.
      May 19
    • Uber lock_up
      Ah I see. Didn’t know.
      May 19
  • Microsoft
    Chad TCock

    Microsoft

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    Taco Bell, Campbell Soup, Jack in the Box
    Chad TCockmore
    Make sure to account for u we stock cutting in half or worse over next few years
    May 18 1
    • Amazon / Eng MRbH17
      OP
      How?
      May 18
  • No sign on component?
    May 17 1
    • Amazon / Eng MRbH17
      OP
      Nothing in initial offer. Any expected value?
      May 17
  • Amazon Northman
    Solid offer, congrats.
    May 17 0
  • Facebook / Mgmt
    engisquir

    Facebook Mgmt

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    Google
    engisquirmore
    Nice!
    May 17 0