Evaluate amazon offer for SDE2

Amazon Yogo
May 1, 2018 16 Comments

Hi all, got verbal offer from Amazon in California. I have 12 years of experience as software engineer but mainly in scientific computing not really web development. I would appreciate any feedback about this offer:
Base ~ 150k
signup bonus ~ 100k/2years
RSUs 200/ 4 years backloaded in the last two years.

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    NotBeezos

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    NotBeezosmore
    Actually it seems legit for Amazon base but I would push for higher bonus cash. RSUs appear correct and are always back loaded 5/15/40/40 model
    May 1, 2018 4
    • Expedia Expoodia
      Do you have any speculations as to why they are back loaded? Most places I know do 25% over 4 years. Many even do monthly vesting after 2 years.

      Do you think it's an incentive to stay 3-4 years or is it because they know many don't stay 3-4 years? Even sign on is over two years, not that uncommon though.

      I actually use to work for an online brokerage and even worked on a vesting schedule project lol so I've seen many employees actual vesting schedules.
      May 1, 2018
    • Amazon Yogo
      OP
      The recruiter is saying because the bonus is vested over 2 years RSU will come later in year 3 and 4. I think they are incentivizing staying with Amazon for 4 years
      May 1, 2018
    • Expedia PajeetCode
      Yeah but how many actually stay that long. I know it's an echo chamber on the internet but even my LinkedIn contacts that worked at Amazon stayed for <3 years but there are some that are going on >4.
      May 1, 2018
    • Amazon hde876ff
      Truth is that there's no signon bonus at Amazon.... The shares and bonus are split in a way that sign on bonus is your salary... Your 1st year sal, 2nd year sal and 3rd, 4th will all be same bcoz of this split
      May 1, 2018
  • Amazon CHbV52
    For your experience Sde3 was also within range. Maybe the interviewers considered the Sde3 role but decided to down level. For Sde2, this offer is on the higher end.
    May 1, 2018 0
  • Apple bingobingo
    Feels like you were weak in your interview performance. This puts you first year TC at 220ish? Seems low
    May 1, 2018 3
    • Amazon hde876ff
      Hope you are not day dreaming.... Not sure about Apple pay but this is not low at Amazon... This falls close to median of current SDE pay ( inflated stock price)... So it must be more than median in true numbers

      I am considering the total comp... Not base alone
      May 1, 2018
    • PayPal sum1@pypl
      I have 5 years of experience and offered TC close to 270K
      Apr 5
    • PayPal sum1@pypl
      I am still negotiating though
      Apr 5
  • sde2 for 12 years of experience seems like very low ball!
    May 1, 2018 0
  • Amazon LionStar
    Looks just fine...
    May 1, 2018 0
  • Yahoo Builder999
    At market price for a SDE2, but maybe low for Amazon
    May 1, 2018 0
  • Amazon JIdt44
    200 rsu is not bad at all given the current market
    May 1, 2018 0
  • New znmd
    Base and RSU looks fine, sign on can be significantly negotiated.
    May 1, 2018 0
  • Uber JRSmith
    Base is low.
    May 1, 2018 0