Evaluate my offer @ Amazon

Apple theLegendz
May 24 47 Comments

YOE - 8

Amazon offer. TPM
L5
165k base
100k signon ( 2 year )
115k RSU,
5% vest 1st year
15% vest 2nd year
40% vest 3rd year
Rest 4th year

Bay area

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TOP 47 Comments
  • Amazon Nozz
    115 RSUs or 115k $ worth of RSUs? If it’s the latter that is quite low. I got 110 RSUs in December as an L5. The base is fine though.
    May 24 8
    • Amazon Nozz
      My RSUs were worth about 220k when I joined, L5 with a few more YOE, but also an SDE not TPM. I’m not as familiar with the TPM bands, but I’m guessing you can get 40-50k more if you want to be aggressive.
      May 24
    • Lam Research rektkid
      Is the 100 k sign on per year or split in two years ??
      May 24
    • Apple theLegendz
      OP
      2 years
      May 24
    • Lam Research rektkid
      Why are u leaving Apple for such a crappy offer
      May 24
    • Apple alicetheda
      Agree. Not worth it
      May 25
  • GoDaddy / Eng code24x7
    Good base but ask for more RSUs and the vesting schedule is bad.
    May 24 3
    • Amazon fhsj 838
      “Bad” or not, that vesting schedule is standard across all amazon.
      May 24
    • Salesforce / Eng
      123kona321

      Salesforce Eng

      PRE
      BAE Systems
      123kona321more
      Yeah it’s standard. They’re not going to change it.
      May 24
    • Apple theLegendz
      OP
      Stocks is low. I agree.
      May 24
  • Amazon djbravo
    It's a good offer for an L5 position. Whether you should be L5 or L6 is a separate question.
    May 24 5
    • Apple theLegendz
      OP
      Yes. Thats where my confusion is as well. They said they went back and forth on that and decided to give me opportunity to promote to L6 in near future so decided to offer L5
      May 24
    • Apple theLegendz
      OP
      What u think?
      May 24
    • eBay / Product J38aP
      “Give me opportunity to promote to L6”? Everybody has that opportunity. Cheap argument
      May 25
    • Amazon djbravo
      @theLegendz : That's something they tell everyone.
      May 25
    • Apple theLegendz
      OP
      How do I push to go for L6?
      May 25
  • Uber auOX85
    First, Amazon is desperate for TPMs. Most last 8-mos or less. Second, you will likely not last 2 years, as 80% folks don’t.

    So, DO NOT get tricked into believing that you will get 15% shares in the second year. Ask for 15% in Y1, 30% in Y2, push for L6.
    May 24 1
    • Lam Research rektkid
      Crap advice .. bezos is not his uncle . 5 , 15, 40 40 is Amazon standard for all . Won’t change company policy
      May 24
  • Microsoft / R&D ^^^
    Verdict - Low ball offer over all
    Do you plan to stay for 4 years? Do you feel you will stay for 4 years?
    If answer is yes for both, bargain hard for stocks. It should be close to 200k.
    If no, bargain on base and joining bonus.
    May 24 1
    • Microsoft / R&D ^^^
      P.S. just realised it's L5 offer. Seems ok in that case.
      May 24
  • Comcast notbran
    Not sure how Amazon pays. Low for L5 offer overall
    May 24 1
    • Flexport Unbind
      amazon level5 equals to l4 in most of other companies
      May 24
  • Amazon Nskdhdbsdj
    Great offer
    May 24 6
    • Amazon gdxi4nd
      It's top band for lvl 5.
      May 24
    • Apple theLegendz
      OP
      115k RSUs vested over 4 years is top end?

      Thats what I get every year at Apple as refreshers.
      May 24
    • Amazon / Eng firefly123
      They are backloaded, 1st 2 years is primarily sign on.

      Btw don’t expect refreshers much or at all. Get top tier or get promoted if you don’t want a big drop in TCT in year 5, since HV employees are bottom of band target
      May 24
    • Apple theLegendz
      OP
      Whats HV?
      May 24
    • Amazon / Eng firefly123
      Highly valued, I.e. 80% of employees
      May 24
  • Facebook / Strategy missamber
    Seems low for a technical role. Got a higher offer for a policy manager role at amazon recently.
    May 24 1
    • eBay / Product J38aP
      Would you mind sharing the numbers? Was it l5?
      May 27
  • Lam Research rektkid
    Op can I dm you ?
    May 24 1
  • Glassdoor mdcn
    5% vest 1st year ?
    May 24 1
    • Apple theLegendz
      OP
      I know right. Amazon tries to do it that way.
      May 24
  • Microsoft leet_word
    Pretty good offer..location?
    May 24 1
  • Location?
    May 24 1
  • Amazon anEbwop
    Job role?
    May 24 1
  • Nvidia wagecuck
    Don’t take L5 TPM with 8 yoe. You won’t get promoted.
    May 24 0
  • Google topCon
    Is this L4 at Google then? This comes out to 250k TC?
    May 24 0
  • Jet.com / Eng coderb
    What's this come to? Tc
    May 24 0