Evaluate the offers

Cisco VChr123
Aug 27 22 Comments

4 yoe at Cisco, current TC 180k

WalmartLabs: level: Senior swe, 150k base, 20% target bonus, 160k RSU over 4 years, 20k sign on, TC ~220k

Apple: 160k base, 40k sign on, 200k RSU over 4 years, TC ~220k

Apple offer is in Cupertino, Walmart labs offer is in Sunnyvale.

Still interviewing with others, but if i were to choose between these two, which one should be better in terms of growth, learning, wlb. Any pointers appreciated.

comments

Want to comment? LOG IN or SIGN UP
TOP 22 Comments
  • Salesforce ldkIKnfll
    Apple
    Aug 27 0
  • Walmart 🌲50
    Join Apple
    Aug 27 4
    • Cisco VChr123
      OP
      Please mention the reason as well. Would be great for me to compare. Growth, learning and good wlb are some key considerations for me.
      Aug 27
    • Walmart 🌲50
      Work at Walmart is great, wlb is very good and the engineering culture is pretty solid. But Aaple is a much better Engineering band than Walmart. Moreover Walmart doesn't know how to take care of it's employees. There's no place to sit in the office and no place to park your car. If you come to work after 10, you have to either walk a mile to reach office or risk your car being towed away. And even after all these you have to tour the entire floor to find a place to sit. These seem like petty issues but management is determined not to solve them. So if you have a competing offer, it's a no brainier to not join Walmart. I m on my way out and so are most of my colleagues. walmartLabs could have been a really great brand but a handful of poor leaders just ruined it for everyone.
      Aug 27
    • Google Nakutan
      Engineering culture not that solid at Walmart. Eventhough they mamaged to hire smart people earlier, my colleagues who are ex Walmart are smart but spent a considerably time in ramping up around engineering practices. They will catch up eventually but are behind a year to couple of years in terms of career progression. I have not heard any such stories from Apple folks here. Again it depends on team but to not hurt your future prospects go to Apple.
      Aug 28
    • Walmart usr54
      Different folks have different stories to tell. Back in India Walmart Labs had built such a stellar team that a couple of dudes from Google couldn't clear the interviews. Google wasn't alone, as a guy from Tower Research was unable to clear the bar as well. Some teams in Walmart US have similar high standards, so much that some interviewers have to make a conscious effort to tone down interview difficulty, otherwise no amount of leetcode hards will be of any help. In terms of career progression, look at where most of the ex-WalmartLabs folks are in India; mostly running startups, or head of engineering, or at the top of the ladder in larger corporations. But I agree with the general observation of things not being too Rosy for walmartLabs US
      Aug 28
  • Apple s432
    Which team at Apple
    Aug 27 1
    • Cisco VChr123
      OP
      ICloud analytics
      Aug 27
  • Zillow Group yes/no
    Think different
    Aug 27 0
  • Microsoft $8&L03
    Level?
    Aug 27 3
    • Cisco VChr123
      OP
      Apple didn’t tell the level yet, for Walmart labs it is senior software engineer
      Aug 27
    • Microsoft $8&L03
      Is it 40k per year stock or weird vesting schedule where you get 10k first year + 20k next and so on. Also from other blind posts senior base in Walmart e-commerce, NJ goes upto 180k.
      Aug 27
    • Cisco VChr123
      OP
      Walmart labs numbers are almost final, Apple is still in the negotiation phase, I am still pushing for more stocks. I am not sure whether Apple always respects a competitive offer and adjusts numbers accordingly, at least the recruiter I am in touch with has this take it or leave it attitude. May be coming from Cisco, is working against me.
      Aug 27
  • Google Nakutan
    Apple of course. Walmart culture is pretty bad from what I heard.
    Aug 27 0
  • LinkedIn !LI4Life
    No bonus from Apple ?
    Aug 27 2
    • Cisco VChr123
      OP
      Recruiter didn’t mention any target bonus for the position. I believe target bonus or refreshers are variables in Apple.
      Aug 27
    • Apple kill9
      Bonuses are always variable. Any companies guarantee that ?
      Aug 27
  • Indeed frontstab
    Location?
    Aug 27 1
  • Microsoft hisky
    Apple
    Aug 28 0
  • Vudu QYNE30
    You won't get 160k walmart's rsus in 4 years. You will get less than a half. Ask your recruiter about vesting schedule.
    Aug 27 0
  • Accenture softwredev
    Apple would be cool:) Walmart is growing rapidly with tech
    Aug 27 0