Evaluate this Facebook PMM offer?

Credit Karma MangoKing1
Apr 6, 2018 40 Comments

First offer
Base: 143k
Bonus: 10%
Equity: 44k

Second offer
Base: 145k
Bonus: 10%
Equity: 88k

Third & final offer
Base: 150k
Bonus: 10%
Equity: 88k
Sign on bonus: 25k

Monetization PMM
5 years work experience in Eng, PM
Top tier MBA

Interview feedback was all great. Did two phone screens, 2 onsite rounds and one final phone call with Director.

This is their first offer. Super low ball? What should my counter, target be?

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TOP 40 Comments
  • Dropbox / Mgmt Goaaal
    What level ?
    Apr 6, 2018 11
    • Credit Karma MangoKing1
      OP
      Ok so there is still room for improvement since this is 44K total
      Apr 6, 2018
    • Credit Karma MangoKing1
      OP
      Sounds good
      Apr 6, 2018
    • Credit Karma LeetC0de
      You were right - was able to get it to 88k
      Still lower compared to PM
      Will likely turn this down and interview for PM
      Apr 12, 2018
  • Dropbox rfibb
    Equity is so low.... Are you in the US?
    Apr 6, 2018 5
    • Credit Karma MangoKing1
      OP
      Yes, in San Francisco
      Apr 6, 2018
    • Credit Karma MangoKing1
      OP
      Will do and keep you posted
      Apr 6, 2018
    • Facebook public
      Dropbox, it's not an E offer. Don't mislead op. Marketing does not pay as well as eng at lower levels anywhere.
      Apr 6, 2018
    • Amazon Tguw34
      What can I find band for non-swe engineering roles?
      Apr 6, 2018
  • Facebook wVMH10
    143k is standard for E4 SDE. but the equity … i joined FB right out of school as E3 sde with 160k equity so 44 for PMM with 5 years of experience sounds pretty surprising to me
    Apr 6, 2018 1
    • Credit Karma MangoKing1
      OP
      Thank you. Yes, I’m pretty surprised at the equity as well.
      Apr 6, 2018
  • Dropbox / Mgmt Goaaal
    If L7, you are lowballed by a lot. If L4, sounds fair.
    Apr 6, 2018 10
    • Credit Karma MangoKing1
      OP
      Cool
      L7 PMM yes?
      Apr 6, 2018
    • Credit Karma MangoKing1
      OP
      Great
      Apr 6, 2018
    • Uber iamsusan
      What's L6 PM like? 180 / 600 rsu?
      Apr 7, 2018
  • Harris gjr
    How did you get them to double equity?
    May 4, 2018 1
    • Credit Karma LeetC0de
      I was genuinely confused as to whether the first grant was per year or total. When I expressed the confusion along with the fact that it was way lower than my grant in current job, they came back with the second grant.
      May 4, 2018
  • Harris ganclam
    Is that total equity or over 4 years?
    Apr 30, 2018 1
    • Credit Karma LeetC0de
      Total equity vesting over 4 years
      Apr 30, 2018
  • Uber Mashburn
    What is a pmm?
    Apr 6, 2018 1
    • Credit Karma MangoKing1
      OP
      Product Marketing Manager
      Apr 6, 2018
  • Facebook SKfs62
    Do you know what level you ended up being placed at with that offer? IC4? IC5? IC6?
    Feb 5 0
  • Dropbox / Other Ipowneoenw
    I did too - from 300 to 600. Two words: Google offre
    May 4, 2018 0
  • Dropbox / Mgmt Goaaal
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    Apr 6, 2018 0