Evaluate this Microsoft offer

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Mar 19, 2018 20 Comments

Update: recruiter said they are willing to do L62, but at the low range. Thoughts?

I know the role was posted as an L62, eng PM 2. Here’s the offer:

L61
Base: $124,500
Sign on: $8,000
Stock: $20,000 over four years.

I told the recruiter I should be an L62.

Here’s a previous thread with my Amazon comp:
https://us.teamblind.com/s/bdwyjzLy

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  • Microsoft cheachea
    Base is about right. Sign on is solid. Stock is STUPID LOW. Get that stock to at least 100k
    Mar 19, 2018 3
    • Snapchat Snapped;
      Sign on is low too.
      Mar 19, 2018
    • Amazon / Other Tolstoy
      Sign on is way too low compared to industry. Maybe solid for microsoft, which if true, doesn’t reflect well on microsoft.
      Mar 19, 2018
    • Base is low too.
      Mar 19, 2018
  • Google usurper
    Holy shit how many levels does Microsoft have?
    Mar 19, 2018 1
    • Facebook oras8
      More than super mario bros
      Mar 19, 2018
  • Google kiri
    Just don't go. ..sde2 to senior (level 63) at Microsoft is not easy. Even after that, you have another level in senior (level 64) before you get to principal.. that's when you start seeing some money. It will take at least 5 years before you get to principal (level 65) from 62 and even that is not guaranteed.
    You are much better off joining Google or Facebook at level 4 and work your way to senior (level 5) which pays the same or a bit more than Microsoft level 65

    Microsoft is horrible when it comes to.comp for levels <=65
    Mar 23, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Ltcoder
    You’ll get a 10% bonus on top of that too. I think you can do better on the stock though
    Mar 19, 2018 0
  • Apple / Eng
    ʞɹɐԀǝldd∀

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    ʞɹɐԀǝldd∀more
    Base is about right. Sign-on is small, but stock is massively low. This would have been a moderately low stock award 10 years ago. You’re also looking at probably 2 years to get 62.
    Mar 19, 2018 0
  • Facebook oras8
    20k rsu for 4 yrs?? Or per year. Even per year is ridiculously low. Ask for $160k stock
    Mar 19, 2018 1
    • New / Product
      Day_1

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      Ipsos
      Day_1more
      It’s Microsoft. Not Facebook. I’m crying inside.
      Mar 19, 2018
  • New / Product
    djjazzyjim

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    OP
    Update: recruiter said they are willing to do L62, but at the low range. Thoughts?
    Mar 19, 2018 1
    • Apple / Eng
      ʞɹɐԀǝldd∀

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      ʞɹɐԀǝldd∀more
      Better to get 62, but RSUs still need to be fixed.
      Mar 19, 2018
  • Amazon Takshtbiaj
    After how many days of onsite did u receive the offer? Is it With azure or which org? Thanks
    Apr 3, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng
    CorrectBat

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    CorrectBatmore
    That’s less than I’m getting at Amazon...
    Mar 19, 2018 0
  • New / Product
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    Ipsos
    Day_1more
    Base won’t cross 140 at l62. Ask for more stocks.
    Mar 19, 2018 0
  • Microsoft wlb
    I think you will make more in amzn. Why even bother with this offer at all?
    Mar 19, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Lotl
    This is a bad 62 offer from 10 years ago.
    Mar 19, 2018 0
  • Intel Noclie
    Not sure about PM, but L61 SDE typically gets around 30-40K sign on and 70K worth RSUs.
    Mar 19, 2018 0
  • Salesforce Really?
    Meh
    Mar 19, 2018 0