Ex-FB folks how you managed to leave FB on good terms ?

Facebook wlb-sux
May 9 39 Comments

FB’s performance evaluation process is brutal, there’s one review cycle every 3 months.

I got tired of the bad wlb here and used the first quarter of this half for interview preparation and onsites. I didn’t get time to land enough impact.

Though I managed to secure Netflix offer , my manager said I got MM in this mid cycle review and really need to improve. (Posted details in internal fb group https://us.teamblind.com/s/pDWFZbHM).

That’s crazy, it’s so hard to cruise or have side hustle at FB even for a couple of months.

Those who jumped ship from FB, how did you manage to hit MA in your mid-cycle/half end review cycles ?
I feel it’s impossible to prepare without compromising your work at FB.

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TOP 39 Comments
  • Facebook undrpa1d
    Every job I've ever left, I made sure to burn all the bridges. Its WAY more fun and satisfying that way. If I'm leaving, I'm not leaving to come back. That is weak sauce ...
    May 910
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      Lol, don’t think that’s a good strategy.
      You never know what’s gonna happen in the future
      May 9
    • New trmind
      I agree it’s not a good strategy, but I completely understand the op. Among the people I burned bridges with (very few), I’d rather be jobless and homeless than ever ever work with them again or ask them a favor, so it’s pretty safe.
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      Just because you don’t like your manager/colleague doesn’t mean you should burn bridges with the whole company.
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      The reason I fear is because I am on H1B, I am more worried about losing my status than burning bridges with FB

      I gave up on FB starting this half, I am jumping ship to Netflix soon. I just want to make sure I leave FB on good terms as it’s one of the top companies
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      I have been at FB for 5 years. Got tired of shitty wlb and stress.
      May 9
    • Microsoft oasisred
      Was it always stressful or just recently? Also, how is the code quality at FB?
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      Always stressful, this half I decided I had enough and started preparing for interviews.

      Code quality... lol don’t get me started on that 😂
      May 9
    • Microsoft oasisred
      Are there a lot of politics as well at FB?
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      That’s been my personal experience . Anyways deleting the above comment.
      May 9
    • Microsoft oasisred
      Sounds like Facebook is not great for folks who have families.
      May 9
  • New trmind
    How many hours you work a week, if you had to say? Considering accepting an offer for E5 in infra
    May 97
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      It’s not just hours. At E5+ you need to spend more time on direction and roadmapping. So it’s more mentally stressful than just long hours.

      With FB’s too frequent reviews, too much focus on short term impact and metrics things can get tricky.

      Also, there are hacks everywhere, a lot of time/stress goes on fire fighting. The fix of underlying issue is rarely prioritized.
      May 9
    • New trmind
      Understand and I appreciate a lot your feedback. Still, as a mere data point, would you mind say how many hours a week are you actively working in and out of the office (thinking about work on the shower doesn’t count)? I’ll obviously take it with a grain of salt.
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      Most of the people at FB work over 45 hours a week.

      I in particular try to not work beyond 45 hours, but that increases the risk of getting MM. This half I messed up because I was preparing to jump ship, otherwise should have been fine.

      In general FB demands long hours and is more stressful due to its stringent performance evaluation, short term/metrics focus, it highly rewards high performers and punishes slackers which creates crazy rat race
      May 9
    • New trmind
      Thanks. Now I’m even more scared lol.
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      There seem to be some good teams at FB as per blind, but I haven’t managed to find them 😂

      I have been in a few teams, and the shitshow was everywhere. That’s why I am leaving.

      If making more money is your top priorities then FB is great for you.

      Also you can get quick promotions at FB, but I don’t think you learn much technically as most of the work is around hacks and patches: most people add hacks on top of hacks to land quick impact and make the management happy
      May 9
    • Facebook fullname
      Yeah, I agree. Wlb sucks. And since most people are just busy hacking crap, I find engineers tech knowledge to be pretty limited.
      May 9
    • Facebook уes
      Lots of great wlb teams. Use bootcamp wisely and you will be fine
      May 10
  • Google OAoK43
    Sounds like a lot of teams at Google too. You will get punished if you fix stuff instead of lanching new things.

    My manager said to me - don't bother cleaning code. I cannot reward you.
    May 92
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      Wow, and everyone thought Google has the best engineering culture 😂
      May 9
    • Google OAoK43
      It probably still is better than other places. Which tells you how bad other places must be.
      May 10
  • Facebook cochococho
    Midcycle rating is a trend and more a signal for you. It doesnt mean you are done even if you do nothing in the following quarter
    May 95
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      But it might influence my manager to mark me as non-regrettable
      May 9
    • Facebook cochococho
      Only in rare cases you get pushed out with a single MM. You shouldnt think you’re done with it
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      I am already leaving for Netflix soon, stuck for 4-5 more weeks here due to h1b transfer crap.

      Any tips on what I should do to leave on good terms ?
      May 9
    • Facebook уes
      Just push yourself to ship some wins. Goes a long way to show you are not checking out
      May 10
    • Agree @yes, Specially towards the end of employment, most people just check out and any significant work done at this stage is a huge positive
      May 10
  • Microsoft / EngpxXW78
    Which field are you in, product, Infra or ML track ?
    May 93
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      Infra
      May 9
    • Microsoft / EngpxXW78
      Always heard bad WLB in FB Infra
      May 9
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      I heard Infra has bad WLB and product has brutal WLB.
      May 9
  • eBay / Engsfjrngksk
    I am confused, you are leaving fb for a better wlb but you are joining netflix
    May 111
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      Lol, I am going from horrible wlb (FB) to bad wlb (Netflix).

      So I am indeed improving my wlb 😂
      May 11
  • Facebook ksoshdy
    Leave soon. Your mid cycle will not matter and you will be regrettable attrition.
    May 101
    • Facebook wlb-sux
      OP
      How soon ? Will leaving before this PSC work ?
      May 10
  • Microsoft / Enghappiee
    What is MM?
    May 91
    • Meets Most (objectives). A slightly negative rating.
      May 9
  • What are the various rating levels ?

    Does consistent(2) MM’s or lower lead to a fire ?

    What is the typical route for someone to get fired early (which happens a lot I believe) ? And how long does it take ?
    May 100

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