FB Contingent worker under Accenture- insane

Facebook / Data treehouse3
Sep 4 33 Comments

Hey All,

I recently talked to someone that works at FB under Accenture. This is the first time I heard these ridiculous company rules that they imposed on contingent workers like:

1. Very strict 8-5pm work hours - given that shuttles are minimal in some areas plus traffic

2. Laptop cant be taken home

3. Poor management treatment - 0% transparency. Bs promises, and many more. Lack of appreciation, and felt like they are treated like kids.

Fyi, program managers (ftes) imposed most of the rules.

List goes on...

I can’t imagine working for a company (FB) that does not equally treat people that works on the site. Even though they are technically contractual, since they work closely with FTEs, shouldn’t they be treated equally as ftes? I am not even talking about the benefits and compensation here.

I am not even talking about the content review workers, but this directly to a product where 90% of FB’s revenue comes from. I just cant fathom how can this be possible... it’s just demoralizing if people will only know the everyday struggle that these workers experience.

It feels so awkward that I have all these perks, and they dont? I literally work with them side by side.

I feel like Vendor managers are being pushed by FB’s standards. CWs seems to be all just numbers and data -not human.

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TOP 33 Comments
  • Accenture KmAH78
    We're used to it... Most of us are just happy to have a client site that isn't a windowless dungeon with box fans in it
    Sep 4 4
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      This is the sad reality. People should fight these types of bs. I cannot work with a company that doesn’t share the values and integrity that I have. All I have is to see equal opportunity and rights for everyone.

      Random question: do they pay you enough? Based on the market rate for your role?
      Sep 4
    • Accenture KmAH78
      I get paid pretty well mostly due to leveraging competing offers for comp matches. TC = 260k
      Sep 4
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      Nice, good for you! Are you working in a client site? Tech role?
      Sep 4
    • Accenture KmAH78
      Yep to both, security focused
      Sep 5
  • Facebook bgesxcnkig
    This has been a huge issue at Facebook and Google for a while. Contingent workers are mostly treated as second class citizens.
    Sep 4 2
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      That part really sucks. I can’t appreciate my perks if I know one of the co-workers does not enjoy what I have. Like dude, don’t vendor managers feel that these kind of stuff? Probably its all about metrics and numbers
      Sep 4
    • Microsoft vTk96
      Microsoft invented treating contingent workers as second class citizens. Of course, losing the famous contingent worker lawsuit contributed signicantly to that. The company had to pay out a huge sum because it was argued the contingent workers should have received full time employee comp because they were treated the same.
      Sep 4
  • Amazon / Product TheStreets
    This isn't FB necessarily but a contract between FB and preferred vendor Accenture.

    They don't fuck around with info sec
    Sep 4 13
    • Amazon / Product TheStreets
      I did contract work for 3 years, made a fortune but also knew I put up with a lot of BS bc I wanted to hit a financial target.

      Perhaps you are responding more to people that choose to contract versus believe they have to contract?
      Sep 5
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      The 8-5 thing was just one of the things that they are dealing with. Its how management treats them, and how they handle them. Lots of BS and 0 transparency because they are not entitled to it? What do you call that?

      Like I said, its hard for them to work on these type of environment if everyone they see has these perks and they cannot have that. If FB really wants contractual employees then don’t let them stay in our campus...but then again there are reasons why we have them on-site, right? So if they are important enough to stay on our site, then why cant we treat them the same?
      Sep 5
    • Amazon / Product TheStreets
      Have you personally ever contracted before? I agree that they are usually treated as less but the company uses contractors bc they are replaceable/temporary.

      The treatment of not being seen as equals is the case at every company I've worked. Contractors are a no strings attached (for the company) resource to meet market needs.

      If they want those perks, then apply full time. They know exactly what they are getting into. They can leave the project if they want a fte gig with benefits
      Sep 5
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      Does it mean if someone is replaceable, you will treat them less? Lol and you think just because we are ‘FTE’ we are not replaceable? Funny.

      If that same logic follows with what you just said, then we shouldn’t raise the standards we have since it is what it is?

      People like to pretend to be better than everyone else; just because of the status or ‘title’ they have lol thinking these cws does not have an impact to the company is called ignorance and pure bs
      Sep 5
    • Facebook / Eng e999
      How do I call that? I call that “work”.

      Everyone has these perks and they don’t? Because everyone else is employed by a different company they are welcome to apply to.
      Sep 6
  • New Hadope
    Called a TVC temporary vendor contingent. I actually have gotten a lot of contracts job offers at google with a staffing company. It's insane to me how they dont offer health insurance. Like am I going to work at the mines c'mon. Theres a lot of news articles about this google tvc google. Some article said almost half of workers at Google are tvc. In that case this is inexcusable for such a rich company.
    Sep 4 2
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      Thats modern day slavery. I am not even talking about they pay and benefits here. Mostly just how they get treated... this is ridiculous.
      Sep 4
    • New Hadope
      I think a lot of companies treat their contingent tvc workforce the same way. They are like second class citizens that are told that they are not a full time employee only a temp. I really dont like how demeaning ppl can be. "You are only an intern here". Its one thing to get a job, but another to find a great group of people. Unfortunately it is not as common as it should be at least in my experience.
      Sep 4
  • Walmart
    Yes have heard miserable stories from Visa and many other companies ..the legal obligation part of not entitling them to certain lunch or events is understandable but the way they get 'exploited ' and piled with tasks when FTE takes all his PTO is insane. have seen those guys work insane hrs and also over weekends doing mundane tasks like upgrades etc
    Sep 4 1
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      Thats 100% true. Don’t pay them high enough, fine since its within the boundary of the law anyway. However treating them like second class citizens? Thats beyond disgusting
      Sep 4
  • Walmart
    You also work at FB . Have you not experienced this first hand ? Though I personally don't agree to this discrimination it seems very rampant in the US especially with Desi managers
    Sep 4 1
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      I dont experience poor treatment with my company. Managers are awesome and they promote WLB pretty well. However, hearing the contractual folks that I work with, makes me feel awkward that I enjoy all these perks but they dont?

      They play a big role into one of our products.....although some of them may be replaceable thats not an excuse to treat them less
      Sep 4
  • Amazon / Product TheStreets
    Let me dust off my type writer
    Sep 4 0
  • Facebook dosanos
    How are they treated like second class citizens? Some stories would be nice
    Sep 4 2
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      Based from what I heard, program managers and Accenture’s management are just treating them like kids. We all know our work culture is pretty flexible, right? But then, they dont have that. Plus they are stuck with their chairs and not allowed to go anywhere else. Very strict 8-5am time schedule, given that they are already underpaid. If they are late, they are forced to use pto as the alternative missing that hour. Lol ridiculous. Plus shuttles are very limited for them as well.

      Not really sure but sounds like vendor managers are pushing them just so they have their perf bonuses by the end of the year. CWs are just metrics and numbers to them
      Sep 5
    • Facebook / Data treehouse3
      OP
      My biggest take on this, is just to treat them as our equal. If we have these perks, and expectations, then why not give them that too? Fire them or put them to pip if performance is low. Just basic human decency is what I would like to see.
      Sep 5