FB E6 low-ball?

Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
Dec 27, 2018 50 Comments

I have an offer from FB for E6

Base: 200k
Stock: 700k vesting over 4 years
Expected bonus: 40k
Sign on: who cares
TC: 415k

Seems low for E6 considering less than 10% of engineers ever make it to that level. What can I do to get more stock?

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    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
      OP
      I wasn't really shopping around so it will take a month min to get a competing offer. Do you know if they will wait?
      Dec 27, 2018
  • New
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    Mr.Greenmore
    That 700k is going to turn to 350k pretty fast.
    Dec 28, 2018 1
  • I’m not answering your question but if you manage that income appropriately you’re going to set yourself up for a lot of great options in life. Probably not a penthouse in San Francisco, but still, you will have many many options available to you.
    Dec 27, 2018 2
    • Well if OP really got low balled he didn’t impress them. Maybe they need a counter offer.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Pinterest hebxigwbxj
      They always start low..
      Dec 28, 2018
  • Google / Eng
    howwzz

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    Yoe?
    Dec 27, 2018 5
    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
      OP
      11, why does this matter?
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      howwzz

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      Just curious. Congrats for E6. Try to get competing offers, and negotiate
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      howwzz

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      This is just marginally higher than an E5 offer i know of
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Maybe OP should ask to downlevel then.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
      OP
      I feel like it's better to start at the lowest compensation of a level and perform well. If I get downleveled, I will basically have to get far exceeds expectations to get a meaningful raise.
      Dec 27, 2018
  • Snapchat shroomed
    Yes. You’d make more as an L4 at Snap.
    Dec 27, 2018 4
    • Microsoft M💰FT
      Lol
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
      OP
      Not according to levels.fyi
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Amazon jsneidnid
      😂
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Snapchat AlexHeath
      L4 at Snap can make 450k easily.
      Apr 12
  • Facebook epxa03
    Can you comment on your level and/or TC at Two Sigma? Have no idea on what the E6 offer should look like but I’m curious if the financial firms are significantly more lucrative
    Dec 27, 2018 2
    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
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      They aren't significantly more.lucrative. Top financial firms are very comparable to companies like FB and Google. I am L4 at Two Sigma, which is generally comparable to L5 at Google/FB. However, we have more levels at two sigma, so you cant really make a direct comparison. L4 at Two Sigma is probably equivalent to L5.6 at FB/Google.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Facebook epxa03
      Ah thanks for the info!
      Dec 27, 2018
  • Microsoft / Other compiling
    Ask for 900k-1M RSU. FB stock will tank.
    Dec 27, 2018 0
  • Amazon djsjsjsj
    People are curious on two sigma...
    Dec 27, 2018 3
    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
      OP
      There was another thread this day about 2S vs FANG. I'm not interested in talking about Two Sigma.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Pinterest hebxigwbxj
      What is it Two Sigma ?
      Dec 28, 2018
    • Google sunnyvale8
      Dude you got to give info to get.info
      Dec 28, 2018
  • Facebook phils
    OP, best e5 offer I have seen is 190k, 600k, 100k and least is 175k, 350k, 50k.. levels have ranges.. dont go by one or two data points..

    Is this your first offer?

    Do negotiate hard. If it doesnt work out, dont be disappointed

    Just say that, I would sign immediately if I see these numbers 210k, 1M, 100k. Otherwise I would like to wait for other offers. Dont say that u r not interviewing any where.. FB doesnt pressurise so u will have time..
    Dec 28, 2018 1
    • Facebook phils
      I repeat, it is ok to say to recruiter that I am waiting for other offers, your current offer is not sufficient enough for me to sign immediately
      Dec 28, 2018
  • Google LondonFog
    Ask for 900 RSU, I don't think they would refuse.
    Dec 28, 2018 1
  • Facebook odnafskgp
    not very low. some have even < 400k. actually higher than most e6 joined last year, due to stock price down a lot.
    Dec 27, 2018 1
    • Pinterest hebxigwbxj
      Right, but it’s low ball with the current market. Good offer would start from 230-240 base and at least 800k stocks and can go way higher. This is a strong E5 offer
      Dec 27, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng msus33
    Seems like the lowest point in the E6 band, which would mean that you’ll get decent salary raises even with a ‘Meets All expectations’.

    I’d ask at least for the typical $100k sign on, and $800k stock. That should be very easy for the recruiter to meet.
    Dec 28, 2018 0
  • Pinterest hebxigwbxj
    Ask for more. This is on the lower end
    Dec 27, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng 5'6"Indian
    It's not a lowball.
    Dec 27, 2018 0
  • Google / Eng
    howwzz

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    Whar are the good things about Two Sigma?
    Dec 27, 2018 3
    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
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      Why are people asking so many Two Sigma questions in this thread? They are not relevant.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      howwzz

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      Bcoz dont hv much info about it, so curious
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
      OP
      Visit the other hundred Two Sigma threads on Blind.
      Dec 27, 2018
  • New stereo
    Check out other offers on http://levels.fyi
    Dec 28, 2018 0
  • Google SirMixAlot
    I got $475K back in July, but i was willing to walk away (no competing offers except my existing which was very competitive, same level). I do have a few more YOE than OP though
    Dec 28, 2018 1
    • Microsoft ramare
      Can you please give the TC breakdown? Also how many yoe?
      Dec 28, 2018
  • Amazon djsjsjsj
    Why leaving two sigma? Is it good to work there?
    Dec 27, 2018 1
    • Two Sigma / Eng googoogaga
      OP
      I love two sigma but have been thinking of moving to the west coast since my friends live there.
      Dec 27, 2018
  • Microsoft M💰FT
    How many yoe?
    Dec 27, 2018 1
  • Honeywell / Eng that1guy
    So.... did you join OP? Hopefully you did. That’s $300k profit FB stock just went through from dec til now.
    Apr 12 0
  • BlackRock Ikqf10
    Solid offer. OP what is your back ground ? How tough were the interviews?
    Dec 28, 2018 0
  • Two Sigma abcdcba987
    Looks low to me, not really a bump from your current TC.
    Dec 28, 2018 0
  • Robinhood hood
    As others have said, that looks lower than the highest E5 offer.
    Dec 28, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Shaqq
    Seems low for the level but appropriate for your years of experience. That being said, I'd ask myself what's a number that'd make me move and ask them to match that
    Dec 28, 2018 0

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