CompensationOct 10, 2019
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FB to Guidewire?

Didn’t know a public company called “Guidewire” existed until I got an email from their recruiter a month ago for a Technical Lead or Engineering Manager role in Cloud Data platform team. Though wanted to move out of core data group here, I wasn’t planning to leave FB. I happened to hear about Guidewire for the second time in my life when I met someone who left the company recently. He told me they pay big to attract good talent. I am E5 and My current TC is 340k. What is the TC for a first line eng manager? Anyone from @Guidewire ? I did some homework and reached out to more folks at Guidewire through my network. Some good and not-so good info Good —-They pay big. Getting more hints and info on that —- They are a public company with 7 billion market cap —- Great WLB —- Glassdoor top rating —- Stock all time high —- They did a good CEO hire by poaching a Salesforce top exec. Heard very nice things about him from Salesforce friends —- They did another good hire with their head of Engineering for Cloud Data platform group. Heard he is prolific technologist and a great leader. I am tired of seeing immature managers around. So this is a big deal maker for me Not so good —- Brand name. No one heard about it apparently 😇 —- Some groups are doing mundane work —- Heard it could be boring if not in right group. —- Last and the least😊. No freebees. Will miss MPK multi cuisine free food. All FB spoiled brats would understand what I mean Anyone knows Guidewire Engineering Manager TC ? I know many FB eng folks choose FAANGMULLA or exciting startups. Didn’t see anyone choosing such midsize public company. Is that a bad option?

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Facebook Tgko24 Oct 10, 2019

Not recommended, they had layoffs in their IT department recently. Very boring work in the insurance software industry as well. If you're leaving FB, you can do way better than this.

Facebook fbeng99 OP Oct 10, 2019

Thank you. Very very helpful

LinkedIn phatman Oct 10, 2019

I can't see them having a strong engineering culture.

Facebook fbeng99 OP Oct 10, 2019

Thank you. Any idea about the Data platform group?

LinkedIn phatman Oct 10, 2019

You should come to LinkedIn instead. :)

Veritas 13Jija Oct 10, 2019

My partner interviewed for Director level position in their IT department. Conversation was not great and eventually withdrew candidacy/application. You will be joining engineering department which is very different from internal IT department. Good luck!

Cisco ☪️oe✡️is✝️ Oct 10, 2019

Partner?

Facebook fbeng99 OP Oct 10, 2019

Thank you. Any idea about Engineering groups? Data platform specifically. Any guess on TC 😊?

LinkedIn waggytail Oct 10, 2019

had onsite there before. Foster City, right? They have some free sodas in the refrigerator

Facebook fbeng99 OP Oct 10, 2019

Lol.. San Mateo is what recruiter said. May be he meant Foster city.

LinkedIn waggytail Oct 10, 2019

should be the same, if I remember correctly foster city is a suburb of San Mateo

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echosummet Oct 11, 2019

For the love of all that's holy, or unholy, or that just exists... DON'T DO IT Guidewire is a pile of shit pigeonholed into a stagnant industry.

Guidewire jlingling Oct 11, 2019

Stagnant industry? Lol. More like recession proof.

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echosummet Oct 11, 2019

You may be right, but I've seen the source code, nuff said 😘

Guidewire axxghop Oct 11, 2019

I have no idea about TC. All I know is we pay really good. Can’t compete with FAANG, LinkedIn, Uber, Lyft but can be next best. The quality of engineering talent is top class. Every other person left the company landed in Uber, LinkedIn and similar top ones. The Uber guy had an offer from Facebook too. The company got a brand problem. Many might not know that we had our own programming language which is used by the entire insurance industry. We were probably a boring company when we were an enterprise on premise product company. With cloud transition happening fast and real, things have changed. Our cloud platform and data platform teams are as good or better than many out there. Trust me you don’t need insurance industry knowledge to succeed here. Try solving our coding interviews and other rounds, you will appreciate our hiring bar.

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echosummet Oct 11, 2019

As one of, if not the, first cloud deployment of Guidewire....I respectfully disagree 😉

Guidewire jlingling Oct 11, 2019

Facebook’s been trying to recruit me out of gw.

Guidewire ATFn46 Oct 11, 2019

We did well last year and everyone got shitty raises/bonuses this year without explanation. Everyone decent is already practicing LC and looking for an exit. Growth won't last as we've saturated the top of the market. If you're FB material you can do better than us.

Guidewire hvEk08 Oct 11, 2019

Truth right here.

Guidewire jlingling Oct 11, 2019

That’s effed up dudes. Maybe they want you to leave. My refreshers have been 75% of the original grant. I think that’s higher than most companies. There is still a lot of room for growth

Guidewire jlingling Oct 11, 2019

OP go check out the analyst day webcast from 9/26 Hear why the CEO joined. Hear from the head of engineering. Hear about growth opportunity http://ir.guidewire.com/events/event-details/guidewire-software-analyst-and-investor-meeting

Guidewire 1125pm Oct 11, 2019

It was a great company ... Not anymore. The company has stopped caring about it's employees. The data team has lost a lot of good people off late. I hear there is lack of clarity on what they are trying to build and where they are going with it.

Guidewire jlingling Oct 11, 2019

There is a lot of change for sure and it will work for some people and not others. But at a high-level are doing all the right things, moving to micro services/cloud. We’re the incumbents and we can’t get lazy. Change is necessary. Too early to say for certain if it’s going to work for me. But I sure as hell wouldn’t discourage people from interviewing. Maybe this guy can fix what’s broken in data. Facebook tried to recruit me the last two years. I decided at Facebook I’ll be one of many, many, many, many whereas at guidewire I’m right smack in the thick of it and I prefer it that way. It’s a growing company with opportunities.

Guidewire 1125pm Oct 11, 2019

Doesn't help jlingling if there is just one person person talking all positive. Create more accounts. Lol

Guidewire ishaw37 Oct 11, 2019

I am from data team. It is true we had no clue what we were building. Didn’t have a leader until recently. Company was busy investing time and energy to move to cloud. It was chaotic we lost some good people to LinkedIn and Uber. The new engineering leader made an unbelievable impact within first two months itself. Every single person I know at Exton office has total clarity about what we are building. I think that was the best to happen to data team. OP heard it right. He is a real leader who cares about people and a prolific technologist. He lost managers before he joined. That may be causing some challenges at HQ. Data team does have great clarity and right leadership to build one of the best data platforms and ML stuffs in the world.

Guidewire 1125pm Oct 11, 2019

It's funny ... You're from data team and you're talking about Exton team having all the clarity ... Not you 🤣🤣🤣

Guidewire k8slove Oct 11, 2019

Dude they are doing very well. Why so salty? I get that you hate Guidewire but why are you not leaving? Everyone one I know in that team is charged up and enjoying work again