FB vs Google Offer Decision New Grad

Facebook beow92!.’
Nov 2 49 Comments

FB: 118k base, 220k stock, 100k sign on, 10% perf (negotiated, return rockstar intern)

G: 125k base, 260k stock, 50k sign on, 15% perf (negotiated hard)

Facebook has faster promos so it will make up for the slightly lower initial grant very quickly. Google has a less tarnished name and intial higher grant. Vesting schedule is 25 each year

Looking for insight. thanks so much Blind community!

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TOP 49 Comments
  • Facebook / Retail bookfacer
    I agree with google guy, FB is better for early career growth. Go to G later for a more relaxed pace.
    Nov 2 17
    • Mesosphere / Eng Onesie
      So did the dirty FB management say their average employee tenure to be 10 years? ;) may be they meant that’s the time till the next engineer dies :(
      Nov 2
    • Facebook easzss
      wow, for a small company like mesosphere, that's a lot of toxicity. You used an outdated source from 2016 that you couldn't even interpret correctly!

      OP is looking at a full time offer, why would he care about intern tenure?

      You can't even use google search correctly let alone reason coherently.
      Nov 2
    • Mesosphere / Eng Onesie
      The reason I started to be more toxic than you was due to you pulling out words like ass dumb etc instead of having a rationale conversation. All I was alluding to was that, OP likely would be looking out for a job in 2 years as do most people in FANG and F won’t be a good breeding ground for him due to the culture. But yeah exceptions do exist and they might knock it out of the park. Also, if a post says 1year- 17 months in 2016, likely things are even worse now due to all the recent news about FB. Unless, something was communicated internally as to why the engineer died, how you folks come to work everyday? But that’s not my problem. I hope the OP joins FB and was just giving him a perspective. But, please try to have a rationale conversation even if you think the other guy might be dumb and not smart as you but may be FB doesn’t teach that? (I worked at G before but not FB but have iwed a bunch of people if that helps)
      Nov 3
    • Facebook / Retail bookfacer
      Tenure cut by a number of different factors is trivially available to every employee. I just checked the number for software engineered. It’s way more than a year. I don’t know what more you want.
      Nov 3
    • Glassdoor ffff.
      Good point, I'll delete my comment because I now understand I don't even belong on this thread :)
      Nov 3
  • Facebook / Eng McDonaldT
    Google’s vesting is slightly better than FB. No dumb blackout windows and instant monthly vesting. The refreshers at FB will be bigger. It depends what you want. If you want more of a grind culture (I would for my first gig), go FB. If you want great WLB at a respected company, go Google.
    Nov 2 6
    • Facebook Tgko24
      it's not monthly - depends on the vest amount. doubt it applies to OP
      Nov 2
    • Google / Eng manoi3
      It does apply to op
      Nov 2
    • Facebook Tgko24
      I don't think so - the new grads I know are vesting quarterly
      Nov 2
    • Google / Eng manoi3
      It does for op. It does.
      Nov 2
    • Oracle hsnxlsb
      If it's over 160 GSU then it's monthly. So it does for OP.
      Nov 2
  • Facebook aechem
    I was in similar shoes 10 months ago with exact same figures. I ended up picking Facebook and I believe I made the right decision. You internship gives you a headstart in this move fast culture and you can aim for one half promo. You can easily get promo in one year and make up for all this difference. Google promo cycles are slow. Depends what motivates you, few thousand dollars won't make much difference in the long run. Remember that it's a marathon, not a race. Listen to your heart and you'll have atleast one percent more inclination towards one of the companies and go there. It's a good problem to have, so don't stress on it.
    Nov 2 0
  • Google sp55
    Is fb not matching G in terms of stock?
    Both the offers look good to me. U will be fine picking any one.
    I would incline towards fb for the below reasons.
    1) fast pace environment: u will learn a lot in short term
    2) faster promo process.
    Nov 2 2
    • Facebook beow92!.’
      OP
      Thanks for posting. Facebook said they will not move stock. Have you seen stock be changed for new grad?
      Nov 2
    • Google sp55
      I dont have any data points. They did change for me because of multiple offers.
      Nov 2
  • Rubrik rugdsvkkgx
    Both are great, congratulations! FB would be a better place to start like others said. Likely an easier place for you to fit in. The grind culture helps early in the career. Assuming you aren't affected by general public perception following the last election.
    Nov 2 2
    • Facebook beow92!.’
      OP
      Thanks! That is the vibe I am sensing. I am not affected by it but I know others are. Thanks again for the input I appreciate it
      Nov 2
    • Rubrik rugdsvkkgx
      Also, Google is much more structured. You will likely not appreciate this early in your career.
      Nov 2
  • American Express gandalf$$
    Congrats! How did you prep?
    Nov 2 1
    • Facebook beow92!.’
      OP
      Thanks. Just worked hard at the internship to get FB offer. Didn’t do any interview prep for Google
      Nov 2
  • Google flagged
    Biggest problem with fb is you will have to work on fb products. Do you really use fb anymore ?
    Join Google instead.
    Nov 2 0
  • Google / Eng whyml
    Definitely fb first. Get senior or staff asap and when you’re tired, try to get an equivalent level at google for almost equal pay and better wlb
    Nov 2 0
  • New PiFo21
    hi. I also got offer from G, what do u mean by 15% perf?
    Nov 2 2
    • Google / Eng whyml
      15% of base
      Nov 2
    • New PiFo21
      is it even negotiable? doesnt it normally depend on your perf result?
      Nov 4
  • Google hypms
    New grad, go for Facebook for sure.

    Just curious what are Facebook intern rating levels? I heard something like, rockstar, exceed, meet, no-hire. True?
    Nov 2 1
    • Facebook beow92!.’
      OP
      Rockstar (GE), exceed, meets all, meets most, meets some (last 2 are both no return offer)
      Nov 2
  • Microsoft ®@©∃©@®
    BS or MS?
    Depends on product area for google and how well you would fit.
    Nov 2 0
  • Google ysnh31
    Depends on what you want.

    FB is much quicker to promote and gives out much higher refreshers to high performers. But it might be a very stressful environment for even average performers.

    Google is a nice place to chill and enjoy life. So many people coast here not doing anything. On the other hand, promos here are a much slower and painful process.

    But as others have said, it's a marathon. Go to a place where you think will help you in the long run.
    Nov 2 0
  • Add a poll to the post. My vote is Google
    Nov 2 1
    • Facebook beow92!.’
      OP
      Added. Please provide a justification if possible so I can see the logic behind your opinions
      Nov 2
  • Verizon Media fbgoog
    Any tips for getting rockstar as an intern? I'm interning there next summer.
    Nov 3 0
  • Google anongoog
    how did u negotiate google so high (260 stock)? i had the same fb offer but dont make as much
    Nov 2 0
  • Twitch tftchamp
    What’s your team match at Google? What you work on matters to a large extent to continue to grow your TC in future.
    Nov 2 0
  • NVIDIA / R&D Iced
    Doesn't matter, have fun.
    Nov 2 0

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