FB vs goldman

Goldman Sachs nbqi06
Sep 11 105 Comments

have a return offer from GS and a new grad offer from FB.

FB is offering more money but its in the bay area, GS is nyc.

FB offer is 118/150/25, GS is 100/35 signing/100 stocks (gave me this after i told em about FB)

NYC has women, bay area ive heard doesnt. bay area i need a car, NYC i dont. FB free food, NYC expensive food. Taxes similar.

How would you choose?

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  • McKinsey wSWp14
    What’s the big deal about working at Facebook? Seriously asking
    Sep 11 19
    • Bloomberg DINE<GO>
      The PhD is a big deal. You could earn as much if not more in the right place at FAANG upper-middle management.
      Sep 12
    • American Express / Strategy newbie19
      450k in 5 years of work exp is pretty solid but you are on knowledge path which is better. The BA-consultant at any management consulting company path is pretty brutal with their hours
      Sep 12
    • Uber j&8u
      Check out levels.fyi, I think the median person makes senior after 5 years which is about 350k. Experienced senior engineers make 400k+
      Sep 12
    • American Express / Strategy newbie19
      Yes but they also had to work for like 10
      Years mckinsey literally has only had to work for 5 years to reach to 450k granted PhD is work but still
      Sep 12
    • Chase
      ptgi36

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      ptgi36more
      I’d leverage that PhD and go FAANG and you’d probably go over $600k if it’s quantitative
      Sep 12
  • Credit Karma ckgogo
    This is like choosing Penn State over Harvard for undergrad.
    Sep 11 2
    • Goldman Sachs nbqi06
      OP
      lol
      Sep 11
    • Amazon / Eng
      zaqwsxcde!

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      Hmm
      zaqwsxcde!more
      LMAO - good one.

      /thread
      Sep 12
  • Apple / Eng 🐒codemonk
    FB NYC problem solved
    Sep 11 4
    • Goldman Sachs nbqi06
      OP
      Won’t give me for new grad :/
      Sep 11
    • Apple / Eng 🐒codemonk
      :/ but still FB tho. May be able to transfer
      Sep 11
    • New / R&D
      VeoQ04

      New R&D

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      Check Point Software Technologies, Ltd.
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      Senior iOS developer and tech lead
      VeoQ04more
      Fb nyc thought its where it’s at as far as I see
      Lots of interesting teams and developments.
      And indeed not taking grads , only experienced
      Sep 11
    • Facebook YMVM33
      Many people are able to transfer after 1 or 2 years
      Sep 11
  • Chase
    ptgi36

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    Neuberger Berman
    ptgi36more
    FB by a long shot. GS is for people who can’t get into FB. Your raises and promotions will be crap and you’ll learn very little. Banks are not dynamic learning environments in tech.
    Sep 11 1
    • Wells Fargo / Finance
      ySNT34

      Wells Fargo Finance

      BIO
      Trying to get a tech job
      ySNT34more
      Yep. Feel like puking everyday.
      Sep 11
  • Google qpsi392n;$
    You're gonna be too broke for women either way
    Sep 11 5
    • Goldman Sachs nbqi06
      OP
      So every low 20s guy is dateless?
      Sep 11
    • Cisco Atin lay
      Just build ur body and grow ur confidence, that will make you less dateless.
      Sep 11
    • LinkedIn boppob
      There’s plenty women for non uglies
      Sep 11
    • Two Sigma blarh
      Imagine thinking you can get women in nyc with such a low tc
      Sep 12
    • Google qpsi392n;$
      I tried telling him this and they called me ugly.
      Sep 12
  • Google jimmy2222
    I don't think GS scales with YOE as much as FB does.
    Sep 11 1
    • Goldman Sachs nbqi06
      OP
      Correct
      Sep 11
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    • Goldman Sachs DJ DSol
      If you want to work on newish tech I'd recommend either Marcus or Marquee. Like any company, your manager will either make or break your experience and your growth.
      Sep 12
    • Goldman Sachs Shield01
      Marcus is good you can ask for San Francisco office if you prefer Bay Area or NYC if you prefer that. In general you should have both options.
      Sep 12
    • Goldman Sachs yoGS
      What about trading platform teams or Strats?
      Sep 13
    • New / Eng huskie
      Is Marquee considered a good tech team within Goldman? How does it compare to Marcus?
      Sep 13
    • Goldman Sachs Shield01
      I am not sure Marquee is even a team. I think someone might have misspelled Marcus
      Sep 15
  • Facebook deus
    My 2 cents: join Facebook, then in a year start looking for a transfer to NYC. If you’re unable to get a position in NYC after 1.5-2 years, switch to a new company there. Your career will be well established and you will be able to dedicate the rest of your youth to dating.
    Sep 11 0
  • Twitter HezQ34
    Go to Facebook and then leave after a bit. I live in the Bay without a car and am also a new grad. it's really not terrible. Anyone saying there aren't women here is stupid Lol. It's not like there's not enough for you to date or find someone. You can always go back to doing fintech enter but FB is a better name and you'll learn more in a better environment. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!
    Sep 11 4
    • Goldman Sachs nbqi06
      OP
      how do u commute? Is it hard to date w/out a car?
      Sep 11
    • Twitter HezQ34
      I take the bart and most everyone I know does too. I love about a 7 minute Bart to work, and most other places I can get to with walking plus Bart in about the same time as taking a subway in NYC.
      Sep 11
    • Twitter HezQ34
      Even if you to on 2 dates a week you're looking at a few uber rides here and there. Nothing that would actually put a dent in your money
      Sep 11
    • Facebook deus
      Unless he manages to find an Instagram SF team he will be working in Menlo Park which isn’t a great shuttle commute from the city. And while there are some women in SF there certainly are basically no single women in Silicon Valley.
      Sep 11
  • Bloomberg Pavd36
    I cannot come up one single reason that you want work for GS as a dev over FB.
    Sep 13 4
    • Chase
      ptgi36

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      ptgi36more
      “Should I fly first class or drive there in a mid-range car?”
      Sep 13
    • Goldman Sachs nbqi06
      OP
      Lol I took FB. Just was reluctant because NYC was so good to me
      Sep 13
    • Chase
      ptgi36

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      Neuberger Berman
      ptgi36more
      Bruh live that Cali life and crush FB. F this dirty overcrowded crapfest where the subways never even work.
      Sep 13
    • Bloomberg 1048482919
      NYC is way overrated. I honestly dated better (smarter and equally hot) women in SF
      Sep 13
  • Goldman Sachs DJ DSol
    NYC is great and I think most young people prefer it to SF (I'm biased though), but Facebook is definitely the better career move and move for future TC and opportunities. Like others say, you can always try transferring to NY or jump companies after a year. Goldman isn't terrible but I guarantee you if you come here you'll spend most of your time wishing you were there.
    Sep 11 0
  • Amazon peru
    GS doesn’t help to build up your resume
    Sep 11 2
    • Goldman Sachs nbqi06
      OP
      true. I'm also delaying my start date by 3 months to launch my own dating app, so idk if I really care about my career 10yrs down the line in that respect.
      Sep 11
    • Google jimmy2222
      How far along are you? Are you seriously considering it over working full time? Curious because I've thought about starting my own company as well.
      Sep 11
  • Dollar Shave Club
    HcknGbsns

    Dollar Shave Club

    BIO
    Human urinal
    HcknGbsnsmore
    If you pick FB can I have the Goldman job you don't want?
    Sep 11 0
  • Goldman Sachs woooya
    Go fb. Btw DM me
    Sep 11 0
  • Uber juryduty
    Having had the same situation as you 5 years ago and having taken GS and not regretting it I might give you some devils advocate to this thread.

    It seems from the thread:
    FB 118 base * 4 + 150 equity + 25 signing bonus + 118*.15 *4 for bonus = 717k/4 years

    GS 100 base * 4 + 22 equity + 35 signing + 30 * 4 bonus (guess) = 577

    So 717-577= 140/4 years = 35/year

    At your level, that doesn’t seem enough to make a difference if the roles are very different.

    So short story, IMO, your role matters more. Some teams on FB are way better than back office GS for growth but probably have way worse WLB. At both places you can find WLB or great teams for growth.

    So this is my long way of saying, we would need more info, you can DM if that helps.

    I also prefer NYC > MP, so that shaped my view.
    Sep 13 3
    • Goldman Sachs jaceerg
      Is this considering the TC/promo growth at both companies? I don't think so
      Sep 13
    • Facebook easzss
      this is the worst calculation i've seen in a while. not taking into account refreshers and promos at fb which you will have to have in 4 years
      Sep 16
    • Uber juryduty
      You can’t predict which company will increase TC more. Both value different things and increase differently. An Investment Banking Strat will likely increase TC way more than many less impactful positions at FB.

      I will agree that FB probably has a higher expected value but it’s also banking on equities staying constant or higher. While GS is all cash.
      Sep 17
  • Goldman Sachs / Eng
    GxEiu

    Goldman Sachs Eng

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    GxEiumore
    Omg not even a question. Do NOT pick GS. You’ll regret it.
    Sep 12 0
  • Bloomberg 1048482919
    Are you at FB in SF proper or Menlo Park? Huge difference, but I'd probably still take FB.

    SF > NYC > Menlo Park imo, and I'm a single straight guy.
    Sep 12 2
    • Bloomberg aJwI87
      Are you at Bloomberg in SF?
      Sep 12
    • Bloomberg 1048482919
      No. NYC, but I've lived in SF
      Sep 12
  • Deloitte / Consultant 👊🏼😤 Tai
    never work back office at a bank. IB maybe but then the hours are crap. And lets be honest OP, even if the bay area did have women (???) you wouldn’t know what to do with one anyway
    Sep 13 0
  • Goldman Sachs nlpc
    FB. This should not even be a question
    Sep 12 0
  • Tower Research Capital / Eng yatrcer
    Engineering at GS is garbage, if you want to get better at your craft, go to FB.
    Sep 12 0

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