Facebook & Google - US vs Europe

New zBqr13
Sep 22 38 Comments

TL;DR - Any huge differences in culture or anything really (bayond pay) between FB/G Europe and their offices in the US?

I’m a CS student from Europe (outside European Union) and I will be interviewing for FB and G for summer internships 2020. I know that Google has host matching and you really can’t pick where you want to work, but you can choose the continent, lol.

I like Europe because it’s close to where I am currently, but also US is attractive because of possible bigger career opportunities.

What would you pick?

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  • Apple / Eng 🐒codemonk
    Which part of the Europe?
    Sep 22 6
    • Booking.com / Eng andyv
      Why not Zurich?
      Sep 22
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      Zurich is amazing also. FB though has only C++ (Oculus) positions there. Google is fine.
      Sep 22
    • Facebook piru
      Be aware that Ireland is pretty much operation roles (PE/SRE). If you are more into SWE roles you are not going to find out anything good there.
      Sep 22
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      Oh OK, didn’t know that. Thanks.
      Sep 22
    • Booking.com / Eng andyv
      Ok, I meant Zurich for Google only.
      Sep 22
  • Facebook / Eng
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    Facebook Eng

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    There is a HUUGE difference in TC between US and EU for these companies. Probably doesn't matter for internship.
    Sep 22 4
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      Right, for now internship is fine wherever. But later I would like to transition into a full time role, and I feel it would be easier to get to US for example if I’ve done the internship in the US. Makes sense?
      Sep 22
    • Facebook / Eng
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      Hm. I think once they wanna hire you, you can pick the office, so in this sense, I don't think it matters. What I would ask them is whether there's a difference per location regarding the process and requirements of transitioning from intern to FTE.
      Sep 22
    • CoL is different, so TC doesn’t matter (unless you own a place and not in debt)
      Sep 22
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      I own nothing in the US, but am debt-free here. Actually getting paid for being a student lol.
      Sep 22
  • Google Atinlay69
    Keep in mind most Blinders are in the US, and haven’t been/lived in Europe.

    I think if you’re a CS student, the Bay Area/NYC are exciting places to be, and they have much better career opportunities.
    Sep 22 2
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      Thanks for the comment and the insight. That renders my poll useless then.
      Sep 22
    • Not really. If the majority of your respondents never visited Europe but still vote Europe, that would be quite a strong signal! 😅
      Sep 22
  • Spotify Atinlay3
    Do you really have a change to interview at G/FB US, or are you just thinking of applying?
    Sep 22 5
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      I already have an interview scheduled for FB Europe. For Google, I am in touch with a recruiter so on Oct 1 when they start accepting online applications the recruiter will forward my resume to the appropriate person (also Europe). So I will have interviews, but probably not now for US.
      Sep 22
    • Spotify Atinlay3
      So you don’t have anything related to US
      Sep 22
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      No, but I haven’t applied for US positions. For Google I might.
      Sep 22
    • Spotify Atinlay3
      This year every post on the careers page basicly says not to bother if you don’t have a work permit
      Sep 22
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      Oh ok. Yeah, it is preferred to have authorization to work, I see. Hm. But anyway, I’ll try.
      Sep 22
  • Cisco / Sales /-\
    Go for the US. Europe is already somewhat accessible to you and in terms of immigration will probably be easier for you than the US.
    If things don’t work out in the US you will come back with an experience that not as many people in europe have vs europeans in different countries in europe.
    Sep 22 1
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      This is very true. Thanks for your suggestions. I might try my luck in the US.
      Sep 22
  • New n95
    Google has no/very low swe headcount in Europe now.
    Sep 22 4
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      Same thing for swe interns?
      Sep 22
    • New n95
      Not sure about this.
      Sep 22
    • How do you know about this headcount information? Any recruiter told about this?
      Sep 22
    • New n95
      I am currently matching for L4 and had been waiting for one month. One of my friend is matching L3 and had been waiting for 3 months.
      Sep 22
  • Intel kura4
    Moved from Europe (EU, developed part) to US. Don't regret.
    Sep 22 0
  • New / Eng
    xoogler420

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    Google US doesn't offer new grad positions to non US candidates because h1b (maybe if you are Canadian / Australian)

    Source: Am from Europe, interned in MTV and when they converted me to full time they asked me to pick an office in Europe.

    That said, you might as well go there since the salary is higher. If you intern in the US, you won't lose the chance to go full time in Europe. Not to mention that the HQ in MTV is pretty nice / much bigger compared to remote offices.
    Sep 22 1
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      Thanks a lot for sharing your experience. I will try to get the US-based internship then. Only type-J visa required for that, right? MTV is indeed very nice.
      Sep 22
  • New / Eng *(void*)0
    Go for the US while you have nothing holding you back in Europe. It’ll be harder to get an interview but it worth a try
    Sep 22 1
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      True true. Thanks!
      Sep 22
  • Go for Canada
    Sep 22 1
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      I haven’t considered Canada, thanks for reminding me. Usually I have only 3 applications to submit. Thus I need to think about it. What are the advantages to Canada-based opportunities over the US and Europe? I heard many people from Canada are moving to the US. And I really hate cold weather 😅
      Sep 22
  • Go for Zürich, less tax deduction compared to Germany.
    Sep 22 1
    • New zBqr13
      OP
      Yeah, I would love to. I will try. Thanks
      Sep 22
  • Zynga parott
    If you have the chance to do so-please move to the US.The opportunities you get will be 100x
    Sep 22 0

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