Facebook Boston Offer for E4 candidate

Toast / Eng XkhB43
Dec 27, 2017 21 Comments

Hi all,

I just received an offer from Facebook as an E4 candidate for an Android dev role. I have 9 years of experience overall but 1.5 yrs of Android dev experience. Can anyone provide insights on this offer ?

150k base
0 signing bonus
220k equity over 4 years

I’m in the process of negotiation but I am also considering potentially declining for an alternate offer with a higher base/signing bonus as a Senior Engineer and reapplying as an E5 at Facebook in a couple of years. Any insights would be great - thank you!

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  • Facebook sum41pwd
    I don’t think declining just to re-interview in the future in hopes of a E5 offer is a good idea. You’re likely to get a promo, refreshers and stock appreciation in those “couple of years” if you sign with FB now. You’ll also be missing out on perks, really smart/great colleagues and FB specific knowledge that you’ll need to ramp up on anyway when/if you do make it in as an E5.
    Dec 27, 2017 2
    • Oracle Tea123
      Wondering how does the refresher look like every year for someone meets the expectation ?
      Dec 27, 2017
    • Facebook sum41pwd
      Differs per level, around $70k based on self reported info.
      Dec 27, 2017
  • Facebook / Product
    Melvin

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    Melvinmore
    Err. Don't kill yourself worrying about level...
    Dec 27, 2017 0
  • Facebook / Product
    Melvin

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    Melvinmore
    I second the opinion that you shouldn't decline and re-interview for E5 in a couple years. Why not accept, kick ass, get a good performance rating, and get promoted? If you want to come here, then come here. Don't kill yourself in the level. Worry about whether the comp makes sense.
    Dec 27, 2017 0
  • Facebook mGsL38
    You would be better off taking the offer and excelling at E4. Then get promoted. You may not get an offer in a couple years or still be offered E4 in two years.
    Dec 28, 2017 0
  • Snapchat / Eng
    SomeEng

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    SomeEngmore
    That sounds great for an E4 in Boston (I know their offers are same across NA).

    E5 should be more achievable but if you didn't interview at that bar then they won't give it to you. The signing bonus should be negotiable up to 25-50k.
    Dec 27, 2017 1
    • Toast / Eng XkhB43
      OP
      Thanks for the input!
      Dec 27, 2017
  • Google / Eng
    fetts suck

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    fetts suckmore
    Equity seems low. If you got about 350k then it would be more in line.
    Dec 27, 2017 0
  • Facebook FaecBook
    If you’re ready for E5 you’ll get promoted in 6 months
    Dec 27, 2017 2
    • Google / Eng
      fetts suck

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      fetts suckmore
      Makes it sounds like the promotion process is a joke then.
      Dec 28, 2017
    • Toast / Eng XkhB43
      OP
      Yea, let’s be realistic. Considering rampup, from what I’ve been told, a rockstar would get a promo in a year at E4
      Dec 28, 2017
  • Facebook / Eng Comp$$
    You are probably being given E4 because it’s an android DEV role and understandably it’s really tough to perform at E5 with 1.5 years of experience.
    I would also recommend that you join now instead of reapplying in a couple years. You should leverage your other offer to negotiate hard and get a good increase on the offer.
    With your rich experience and skills, you can do well and get promoted to E5 very soon (<2 years). Waiting wouldn’t help since you will miss out on FB specific experience and learning, as well as $$$ from stock price appreciation.
    It also depends on the other offer though- if it’s google and giving you L5, by all means take that instead.
    Dec 28, 2017 0
  • Facebook Toasted
    That's a better e4 offer than I got with 4 years experience
    Jan 31, 2018 0
  • Surprised that you did not get joining bonus.
    Dec 27, 2017 2
    • Toast / Eng XkhB43
      OP
      Yea, for Boston, the recruiter says a signing bonus is only applicable for candidates that are relocating
      Dec 27, 2017
    • Cimpress / Eng
      wkl366

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      wkl366more
      Just completed my compensation talks with them and they were pretty resistant on the SOB front for the Boston office.
      Dec 27, 2017
  • Microsoft / Eng @yo
    @OP ... did you join ?
    Feb 12, 2018 1
    • Facebook kmWu80
      Yep, I joined
      Jul 31, 2018
  • Akamai Technologies dBwe58
    What’s a good package for E5 base pay/signing bonus/annual bonus/stock in Boston?
    Nov 13, 2018 0
  • Facebook d0ntb3evi1
    You can probably get a signing bonus if you push hard enough
    Dec 27, 2017 0