Facebook E5 offer

Amazon / Eng WwoR07
Dec 26, 2018 34 Comments

Have an offer from Facebook (Seattle) so I wanted to know whats the max for E5 (SDE).

I am told that this is the max:
Base - 190K
RSU - 600K (over 4 years vests equally quarterly)
Sign on - 100K

SDE II at Amazon (up for promotion to SDE III in Q1)
YOE - 6 years at Amazon (2.5 years prior to Masters outside of US)

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  • Facebook phils
    Did u have to negotiate? Any other offers? What was the first offer.. your current offer is max e5 I have heard
    Dec 26, 2018 7
    • Facebook phils
      I was at Amazon too before.. dont think about waiting for sde3.. just movd
      Dec 26, 2018
    • Postmates j☀️
      Take the fb offer. Snap is a sinking ship
      Dec 26, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng WwoR07
      OP
      Yep these were the initial numbers but the recruiter did try to get the max sign on for me (I was told it could be anywhere between 50K-100K initially).

      Yeah I feel the same about not waiting for promo as well.
      Dec 26, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng WwoR07
      OP
      Yep thats the reason I’m not jumping at Snap’s offer.
      Dec 26, 2018
    • Postmates j☀️
      350k+ TC in Seattle is awesome!
      Dec 26, 2018
  • Amazon aSoL84
    You can get an e5 offer from fb as a L5 sde at amazon???
    Dec 26, 2018 0
  • Amazon / Eng kwq7812
    I had FB/Snap offers back in August (similar YoE as you, albeit L6). My FB E5 offer was slightly lower than yours (~10k base and ~50k RSUs), so yeah, I'd believe them. They won't negotiate against Snap, because they (very reasonably) figure you won't go there anyhow.

    P.S. take the offer. Don't wait around for Amazon L6; it's not worth it. My TCT as an internally promoted L6 SDE is just over $250k, which is laughable with respect to the scope of work I'm expected to handle in a culture like this. I regret turning down the FB offer now, since my org has become incredibly toxic over the past 3 months. Live and learn, I suppose.
    Dec 28, 2018 2
    • New / Eng jbnote
      Did you ditch your FB offer because of internal promotion?
      Dec 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng kwq7812
      Nah. I was already L6 and the shitty promo comp was one of the things that triggered me to look around in the first place; was just more put off by what I'd heard/read about FB's culture and WLB (essentially strikes me as a "nicer" version of Amazon, which isn't a good thing) and didn't know anybody personally that I could trust to solicit reliable inside information from to counter that (which is what I used to take a chance on Amazon--a company I mildly disliked even before I joined--years ago; obviously, I'm not going to trust a recruiter, hiring manager, or any random person on the internet).

      Finally, I was having a decent time of it on my current team at Amazon, so it was ultimately a "devil I know" type decision. I'm not risk averse by any means, but I do take prudent/calculated risks, and the strong likelihood that I would end up slaving away as a grunt in another shitty tech gulag over a product and mission I don't really care about didn't seem very appealing at the time. The irony is that that's exactly what ended up happening to me at Amazon a month later when we were re-orged (yet again) and my manager quit...ha!

      I actually had a more positive impression of Snap based on the people I met there throughout my interviews, but they're obviously going nowhere and I find their product even less appealing and useful than FB's.
      Dec 28, 2018
  • Facebook phils
    I was Amazon sde3 and long timer.. Facebook is not stressful compared to Amazon.. lot of amazonions find fb better..
    Dec 29, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Eng WwoR07
      OP
      Nice!

      Btw quick question: Could you let me know how long does it take to get the written offer after you’ve said yes to the verbal one?
      Dec 29, 2018
    • Microsoft married
      I got it in a day or so after accepting.
      Dec 29, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng WwoR07
      OP
      @phils Did you move as an E5 or E6 to FB? How do you think FB E5 compares to Amazon L6 in terms of scope, influence and career growth?
      Feb 15
  • Microsoft such1
    I got similar offer, $5k less base, everything else is same, even for me they told its the max 🙂
    Dec 26, 2018 3
    • Postmates j☀️
      Your YOE??
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Microsoft such1
      ~15.
      Dec 27, 2018
    • Postmates j☀️
      You guys are gonna break the Seattle market. 🔥
      Dec 27, 2018
  • Postmates j☀️
    This seems like max. 20% bonus is it?
    Dec 26, 2018 3
    • Facebook
      Instagrаm

      Facebook

      PRE
      Google, Microsoft
      Instagrаmmore
      E5 has 15% target bonus.
      Dec 26, 2018
    • Postmates j☀️
      Ah ok, I thought E5 range was 160-180k! Good offer overall
      Dec 26, 2018
    • Facebook
      Instagrаm

      Facebook

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      Instagrаmmore
      That’s the range, and what OP got is the absolute top for E5.
      Dec 26, 2018
  • Amazon gdSe61
    Congrats. This is excellent. No point in waiting for L6 at Amazon.
    Dec 26, 2018 0
  • Square / Eng ttttty
    50% more rsu. should be close to max then
    Dec 26, 2018 2
    • Facebook / Eng
      fb2017

      Facebook Eng

      PRE
      Google, Oracle
      BIO
      worked at Oracle, then Google, now Facebook.
      fb2017more
      No way for E5.
      Dec 26, 2018
    • Facebook
      Instagrаm

      Facebook

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      Instagrаmmore
      +1 that’s the max grant possible, especially given the current stock price.
      Base and sign on are also maxed out above and beyond.
      Dec 26, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Awst
    If you like your work I would wait to get promo and see the total comp than
    Dec 26, 2018 1
    • Facebook phils
      Nope.. this is e5 max
      Dec 26, 2018
  • Capital One mbg
    Congrats OP. Very strong offer.

    How were your coding rounds like? How many problems per round and what was the difficulty level? Also, were you asked any DP?
    Dec 26, 2018 0
  • Amazon djsjsjsj
    op what is your level at amzn and yoe? And current tc? Thanks
    Dec 26, 2018 0
  • Facebook phils
    Yoe and current role, compensation.. will give u your answer
    Dec 26, 2018 0
  • New / Eng jbnote
    Yoe ?
    Dec 26, 2018 0

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