Facebook leveling

Uber lasdd
Feb 8 31 Comments

L5 SWE here. Going for fb onsite. Will they ask me what my current level is? Does Facebook decide leveling based on interview performance only, or also consider my current level? I really want L6, else I don't see reason to leave Uber.

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  • Snapchat evan.musk
    Ask the recruiter to set a L6 loop. Otherwise, will have to do a follow up design round.
    Feb 8 8
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      Wow thanks for that info, really helpful. So I'm hired into a specific team, but I suspect it's E3-E5 based on recruiter description of role and team.

      U r right I don't care too much about leveling as long I get decent pay. How hard is it to get top line pay? I'm assuming I need to completely nail interview to get that.
      Feb 9
    • Facebook / Eng PureWin
      @evan Not true. FB interviewer here - depending on performance and past experience I’ve seen people who passed a L5 interview loop get reconsidered for L6 and called in for an additional interview.

      It doesn’t hurt to ask to be considered for L6, but we prefer to be conservative in this area and setup folks for success rather than failure.

      In other words, we prefer have a successful L5 loop with an additional interview to possibly go up to L6, rather than a failed L6 loop and downleveling to L5.
      Feb 9
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      If I ask for or get asked for follow-up L6 loop, is it possible they retract L5 offer after? I'm a bit torn if I should push for L6, or see how L5 TC (if there's offer) come out to be.
      Feb 9
    • Facebook / Eng PureWin
      Generally we won’t invalidate the previous interviews if you fail the follow up, unless you fail it so spectacularly that it’s suspicious.

      I’d say it doesn’t (shouldn’t) hurt to be ambitious.
      Feb 9
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      Thanks for that! I'll see how this plays out. Will push if I feel I'm doing well in L5 round first
      Feb 9
  • Facebook / Eng
    DRGL26

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    No offense, but the Uber 5a bar is comparable to FB E4.
    Highly unlikely you're being considered for E6.
    Feb 9 3
    • New WmjF76
      Lol! Is this from some anecdote or do you have an evidence? Because Uber interviews are by team and each team has its own bar. So might not be true for all L5s.
      Feb 9
    • IBM UipK84
      I interviewed for Uber L4 and FB E4, didn't see much of a difference. Coding rounds felt easier for Facebook, but system design expectations seemed higher for FB.
      No idea about L5/L6. I've heard that getting into FB/Google at L6/L7 is much more difficult since they prefer someone joining them at an earlier level and getting promoted.
      Feb 9
    • Facebook / Eng
      DRGL26

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      You wouldn't see any difference because you aren't in debrief. It's not about questions asked, it's performance expectations
      Feb 9
  • New WmjF76
    If you don’t mind me asking, why are you considering leaving Uber given upcoming IPO?
    Feb 9 1
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      Already have lots vested rsu, want to try something else. Don't have to wait for IPO if rsu already vested

      IC here are great but they've been hiring a bunch of incompetent managers that don't code, and I have to waste tons of time explaining what I do instead of focus on doing it
      Feb 9
  • Facebook / Mktg Skeoskenne
    Getting 6 is very hard but doable. Good luck !
    Feb 8 1
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      Will try thanks!
      Feb 9
  • IBM UipK84
    Can you please share your TC breakdown and how long have you been at Uber?
    You can DM if you don't want to post here, thanks in advance.
    Feb 9 0
  • Google rubbishing
    Actually it all depends on the interview performance. You would need to nail the interviews. What I understood from my personal experience is one mistake and they ding you down to current level.
    Feb 9 0
  • Uber Avesh
    The recruiter is the only one who would ask. In the interview they would ask more about your responsibilities at Uber.
    Feb 8 0
  • Facebook / Eng Carmine
    Of your yoe doesn’t lign up with a 6 you’re not getting a 6 interview. We don’t uplevel just cause someone says they want it. I’m sure there’s a reason you’re a 5 at UBER and not 5b or 6.
    Feb 10 4
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      While that's partially true it's like saying no one should ever get upleveled when jumping to different company. Theres lots of reason people get stuck bad manager bad project bureaucracy nepotism etc
      Feb 10
    • Facebook / Eng Carmine
      Agree with the 2nd part of the statement but also didn’t say never either. However if you just have 2 years of ic5 exp or don’t have 8+ solid years of relevant experience they’re not going to consider you for ic6. I don’t know your resume so only you know how reasonable this is.
      Feb 10
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      My question is how would they know I have x yrs of ic5? Do they ask? I have tons of yoe but got downleveled jumping around a few times for better rsu.
      Feb 10
    • Facebook / Eng Carmine
      Your resume should answer the question based on yoe, scope, what you actually did, companies worked at etc.
      Feb 10
  • Facebook / Eng
    IhJY54

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    Interview performance only
    Feb 8 3
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      Will they ask my current level?
      Feb 8
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      How do you respond if they ask? Not sure how to say no. Recruiter says level is generic and depends on interview
      Feb 9
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      Makes sense! Thanks!
      Feb 9
  • Reddit funkfunk
    5a or 5b?
    Feb 8 1
    • Uber lasdd
      OP
      5a want 5b. That's fb l6 as far as I know
      Feb 9