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Facebook v Uber

New aneemz2
Jun 8

I've verbally accepted a Facebook offer over Uber which I00% intend to follow through with. Mostly because Facebook seems like a more interesting place to work, especially as someone new to big tech companies. I feel like I'll have the opportunity to learn a lot more there outside of my specific domain.

The TC is less though, as I believe the Uber position was slightly more senior. It's still good money though. Is it a huge mistake career wise to take a slightly lower position?

My recruiter seems to think if I perform well I should be able to move up a level pretty fast. I can't be certain, but I have a feeling I may have downleveled during interviews.

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  • Uber 65467
    433 at which valuation?
    Jun 814
    • Uber 65467
      Yoe?
      Jun 8
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      I also thought my Facebook interview performance was really weak. I was surprised they even extended me an offer.
      Jun 8
    • Uber What.?
      Whatever your decision is, Uber is pretty bad. Just let you know
      Jun 8
    • Groupon ThatSucks
      Jesus dude, you seem so clear in your opinion that it scares me to think I have the same two choices and I'm picking Uber over Facebook. Let's have a conversation on this thread about our reasons, so that I can feel more confident about sticking to my decision or flipping it.
      Jun 9
    • Uber / Engbag
      Thatsucks, this one person is continuously saying the same thing, which just means that one person had a bad experience at Uber. I had a hugely positive experience and I have been at top tier companies before.
      Jun 9
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      Hey ThatSucks.
      How did you make your decision?

      Getting a job at somewhere like Facebook has always been a dream of mine, and now I can't even seem to feel good about it. Because I feel like I'm passing up an opportunity I my not again.
      Jun 9
    • Groupon ThatSucks
      @bag, I agree. But would be good to know his reasons.

      @aneemz2, I think Uber will help me make a bigger impact (technical project wise). That provides me with a good learning opportunity over the next four years and I see myself growing much faster. It's the "fail-fast" philosophy that helps agile startups grow despite some missteps. Hopefully it will work at a personal level. If not, there is no dearth of jobs for SWEs.

      Plus there is always the possibility of a larger upside in the stock. Uber is the clear winner on this one.
      Jun 9
    • Uber / Engbag
      Thatsucks you are right that opportunity for impact is pretty good at Uber for any engineer.
      Jun 9
    • Uber What.?
      This bag is famous for saying nonsense shit in Uber specific Blind. Troll
      Jun 9
    • Uber fyffdd
      What. He is known for saying the truth.
      Jun 9
  • Uber What.?
    Dont come to Uber, this is a good choice
    Jun 85
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      What's wrong with Uber?
      Jun 8
    • Groupon ThatSucks
      Umm. Same boat. Different decision. So, care to elaborate the reasons please?
      Jun 9
    • Lyft examazon
      I'm also trying to decide between Facebook and Uber, care to elaborate?
      Jun 9
    • Uber What.?
      just join Uber, the. You will understand
      Jun 9
    • Facebook / EngnJnC647
      I don't know too much about Uber but Facebook really gives unique opportunities. If you're coming in through bootcamp (generalist) you get to pick your team which kinda guarantees you won't have to work on a project you're not into or with a manager you don't get along with
      Jun 9
  • Uber OFej71
    Go with Facebook. The engineering bar is way higher and you’ll have a larger impact for sure
    Jun 83
    • Uber What.?
      Exactly
      Jun 8
    • Microsoft
      Why?
      Jun 8
    • Uber What.?
      Come and join Uber and you will find out!
      Jun 9
  • Uber / Engbag
    Looks like you are getting E4 at FB and level 5a at Uber. And comp at Uber is more. I would prefer Uber in this case as apart from seniority+comp, the impact to society at Uber is also more and WLB is also better.
    Jun 92
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      Yeah, this thread is making me second guess my decision making. I know the Uber position could monetarily pay off really well. I guess I made the decision purely on the fact that Facebook is the company I want to work at, instead of unbiased assessment of the actual offers.
      Jun 9
    • Uber What.?
      That is unbiased
      Jun 9
  • Facebook uKdb47
    Facebook promoted me within a year. From what I understand this is not uncommon as they tend to err on the side of under-leveling you and then promoting quickly.
    Jun 81
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      Yeah, he specifically mentioned the 1 year timeframe.
      Jun 8
  • Facebook uKdb47
    Facebook will not negotiate your base pay but they willl bump up your stocks if you show them a higher competing offer .
    Jun 91
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      Yeah, unfortunately it's too late for negotiations as I verbally accepted. In hindsight I think I could have definitely negotiated more stocks.
      Jun 9
  • Google iegb37
    What's the difference? It's not easy to get promoted for everyone
    Jun 87
    • Uber What.?
      Don’t come to Uber.
      Jun 8
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      Uber: 178k/433k with target bonus 25k/103k
      Facebook E4: 160k/300k signing bonus 100k
      Jun 8
    • Uber What.?
      Just don’t come to Uber
      Jun 8
    • Facebook supichai
      Is this for SWE?
      Jun 9
    • Uber What.?
      SDE yes
      Jun 9
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      Yeah
      Jun 9
    • Uber IgYm10
      Is this Bay Area or Seattle?
      Jun 22
  • Yahoo Genius
    Facebook is great but if they really want you, they should match the Uber TC (or get closer). Don't go cheap because it's just Facebook. My friend recently rejected FB offer cuz simply they couldn't match any of her 3 other offers. (ps: she really wanted FB badly but didn't want to go work for less with them).
    Jun 92
    • New aneemz2
      OP
      You aren't wrong.

      This is my tech job in the states, and I guess my thought process is that I'm willing to take less RSU for a company where I personally feel like I'll have the ability to learn a lot more from a wide range of teams and potentially work across multiple products.

      I think they threw in the signing bonus to get me close to cash, and for me that was enough to accept, despite knowing I might be missing out on a lot of money if Uber's IPO goes well.
      Jun 9
    • Lyft examazon
      That's the gamble. Looking at tech IPOs from last year until now seems pretty rough. Given lock down it could easily be a 2y since joining until you are liquid and at that point the stock might be down... What I find concerning is their 100 billion target is ridiculous
      Jun 9
  • Uber 65467
    Yoe?
    Jun 80
  • Facebook uKdb47
    The raise assoc w my promotion was of 20% I shoulda mentioned. I’m sure it depends on the level tho
    Jun 80
  • Lyft examazon
    I am also trying to decide between the two for E6/5b, how's work life balance? Is the environment still toxic?
    Jun 91
    • Uber / Engbag
      Yipee, there might be some isolated toxic managers at Uber but those are there in every company.

      In fact at Uber, your manager is now unable to stop you from transferring teams; in other companies that is usually not so.

      I am not sure you are still at Uber? Recruiters pitches have also been modified.

      Moving up is not necessarily related to headcount. Your technical skills can get you promoted regardless of headcount. And company is still hiring.
      Jun 9
  • Snapchat JITY03
    Why,could u share some details
    Jun 80

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