Facebook vs. Airbnb vs. Uber offer

Salesforce sk8er
Apr 29 46 Comments

Uber told me that there will be annual refresher based on performance, but cannot give me the specific number, so I am excluding it from TC from all three to be fair.

Facebook E5 TC 410750 + 100K sign on
Airbnb L5 TC 445.5K +35K sign on
Uber L5a TC 401K

Refreshers from FB and Airbnb are about the same ~160K so I am guessing something similar at Uber.

I talked to the hiring manager and the team of all three and I like all three of them. Really hard to choose.

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TOP 46 Comments
  • Apple appl3
    I’d go with Airbnb, not just because they’re offering highest TC. I feel like their stock will be pretty valuable in the long run, and they have great employee perks.
    Apr 29 0
  • Sina.com / Eng
    WLB

    Sina.com Eng

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    Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Google
    BIO
    Software Engineer and former phd candidate in biophysics
    WLBmore
    airbnb no brainer. everywhere may suck, but higher tc never.
    Apr 29 0
  • eBay paxt
    Airbnb!
    Apr 29 0
  • Twitter NKCu75
    What’s your level?
    Apr 29 6
    • Salesforce hdhdjen
      Are you a pmts here? Try go for a retention offer.
      May 1
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      No. LMTS. The gap is just huge. I don’t think they can match. And taking counter is not a good idea. I’d rather boomerang after 3~4 years if I really miss SFDC
      May 2
    • Salesforce hdhdjen
      If you read our blind it looks like people have gotten six figure retentions.
      May 2
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      Even if SFDC matches or gives me the retention, I would still leave for a change anyway. I don’t want my manager and above to waste their time. I would be curious to see how much they want to hold me though :)
      May 2
    • Salesforce hdhdjen
      Lmk if you get a retention. I really like sfdc :/
      May 2
  • BlackRock Ikqf10
    Amazing offers congratulations! Is the stock refresh of $160 for 1 year or 4 years ? So what could the total comp including refresh ?
    Apr 29 2
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      If my math is correct and assuming I meet expectations and no raise and no change in refreshers,
      Year 1: 433K
      Year 2: 472.5K
      Year 3: 511.75K
      Year 4: 551.125K
      Year 5 and on: 415.5K
      Apr 30
    • BlackRock Ikqf10
      Thanks sent you a DM
      Apr 30
  • LabCorp
    FKLW31

    LabCorp

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    FKLW31more
    Airbnb has better WLB!
    Apr 29 0
  • Uber weWill
    Can you share breakdown of the offers you got - so easy to say if it’s the good offer or there is room for negotiation
    May 1 3
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      For Uber?
      195K base
      715K RSU
      27.5K Bonus
      May 1
    • Uber weWill
      That’s very good numbers - I think that’s the max I have heard for L5a

      I moved to Uber from FB, and I was in the similar situation like yours - but I joined Uber, and been here close to 2 years and no regrets, it’s a great company and doing good job, if you accept the offer then you can be part of IPO, if they do good then great for you, if not then you can always move to FB or Airbnb.

      Good Luck in any decision you make!
      May 1
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      Yeah, my understanding is that this is literally the maximum they can provide. Maybe some sign on bonus to fill the gap.

      TC for all three are satisfactory at this point. Not a deciding factor anymore. WLB and how the company gives back to community are very important to me. Salesforce has been the perfect place for that, but I still wanted change for my career and TC :) It is going to be an extremely hard decision for me.

      And thank you for sharing your experience!
      May 1
  • Amazon EtkN65
    I recently spoke to Airbnb and Uber recruiters and I asked about their private equity and they basically said that there might be secondary markets or I would need to wait for the IPO which is “coming soon” but this greatly discounts the equity to me since I’m not very risk tolerant. I haven’t seen many posts like yours with senior offers at all of these. What was the difficulty of the system design questions like and do you think there’s any prep one could do or does it mostly come from experience?
    May 1 2
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      This is my post. "236 LC done, system design study for 2 months but still not feeling ready (Tech Lounge)"
      https://us.teamblind.com/s/iapBcjDE

      It didn’t really come from experience. I learned more from 3 months of system design prep than 3 years at Salesforce. That is the reason I am moving on.
      May 1
    • Amazon EtkN65
      Awesome thank you!
      May 1
  • Salesforce / Eng Hypnos
    What’s the location? SF?
    Apr 29 2
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      SF for all three
      Apr 29
    • Apple
      beautyArya

      Apple

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      Dropbox
      beautyAryamore
      @op dm u
      Apr 29
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    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      Already done that. They are going to fill in the gap with sign on bonus as much as they can. I didn’t include it in the TC.
      Apr 29
    • Twitter NKCu75
      in this case I would have voted Facebook
      Apr 29
  • BlackRock Ikqf10
    Awesome! Can you share the material you referenced to prepare for System design
    May 1 1
    • Amazon EtkN65
      The post OP linked above says a book and course they did
      May 1
  • Apple
    beautyArya

    Apple

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    Dropbox
    beautyAryamore
    What’s your background ? What u’OL be working on ?
    Apr 29 1
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      Backend generalist. Continuing on backend
      Apr 29
  • Twitter NKCu75
    And what are the corresponding teams?
    Apr 29 4
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      PMed you
      Apr 29
    • Pm me too, I can advise
      Apr 29
    • Airbnb jahgsg
      Pm me too. I worked at fb and was choosing between air and uber
      Apr 29
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      PMed you both
      May 1
  • Google WVXD02
    Does Airbnb offer refreshers?
    May 2 2
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      Yes. 157.5K with 4 year vesting without cliff annually
      May 2
    • Google WVXD02
      Wow. Solid refreshers. Congrats!
      May 2
  • Uber lock_up
    I was deciding between the three a few months back. It was a very difficult decision, but I ended up choosing Uber because I felt the nature of work aligned the best with what I was looking for. I also feel like we have a tremendous opportunity in front of us if we could execute well against our plans.

    If you’re looking purely from a financial perspective, Airbnb might be the best choice. Their stocks would most likely do well considering they have been profitable in the last couple of years at least and have been investing in multiple companies in similar businesses world wide. I didn’t think the work was particularly challenging or interesting to me though.

    Facebook is always a good option. They’re not going anywhere. Given that their stock price rebounded from the recent lows, I don’t think there is any huge short term benefits from their equity.

    Feel free to DM me if you want to discuss more.
    May 1 2
    • Salesforce sk8er
      OP
      Looking to buy home in peninsula in the next 2~3 years and my wife doesn’t work so financial part is very important.

      The impression I got at Uber is that there are so many hard problems to solve all the time so that I can learn a lot from almost any team while I have to pick the right team at Airbnb.

      Fortunately, I had an insider info from Airbnb that I get to work with team that has superstars (he actually warned me that it could make me hard to get good perf review unless I am the superstar though) and the work I will be doing at Airbnb is almost exactly what I was looking for regardless of the challenge.

      Thanks for sharing your opinion. i really appreciate it.
      May 2
    • Uber lock_up
      Sure thing! Good luck!
      May 2
  • eBay / Product PlantDad
    Curious which company did OP go to:) thanks
    Jul 2 0
  • Google / Eng DLNy53
    great offers. Do you mind providing FB break down? thanks.
    Jun 25 0
  • eBay seaguyy
    can i ask you some question about your interview?
    May 9 0
  • Bloomberg xyzxyzx
    Airbnb for stock upside potential. How many yoe do you have for these l5 offers?
    Apr 29 0
  • LinkedIn
    L5_eng

    LinkedIn

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    L5_engmore
    Airbnb. More money and reasonable valuation.
    Apr 29 0