Facebook vs Dropbox

Amazon 7ga8f
Apr 28 35 Comments

Currently working at Amazon as SDE2 in Seattle with 6 yoe (2 in Amazon), tc is 200k, feeling underpaid. Got couple offers recently, only considering fb and dbx. Need some advices from you guys.

Fb: e4, base 165k, rsu 280k, signon 100k, location mpk
Dbx: ic2, base 170k, rsu 260k, signon 40k, location SF

Considering col and tax, the packages are pretty same with current, but wondering what do you guys think?

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TOP 35 Comments
  • New $€£
    "...how do you guys think?"

    With our brains? 🧠🤷‍♂️
    Apr 28 1
    • Amazon 7ga8f
      OP
      Corrected
      Apr 28
  • The dollar figure amounts are good, but seems like they’re down leveling you. Would have thought 6 years experience would be an E5 at FB.
    Apr 28 9
    • Amazon 7ga8f
      OP
      That sounds pressured, but not sure if it is that difficult to get e5. In amazon, I’d say it is almost impossible to get sde3 in 33 months afaik
      Apr 28
    • Amazon / Eng bCxp50
      I also have an E4 offer from FB--was looped for E5 but just missed it, mostly due to borderline coding (had to do a follow-up interview on that). Design/behavioral were pretty strong, apparently. Also 6 YoE and L5 at Amazon.

      Honestly...I don't really mind. Given how stressful FB is reputed to be, and how stressful my past year at Amazon has been, jumping straight in at E5 is probably more than I want to deal with right now.
      Apr 28
    • Amazon 7ga8f
      OP
      mind sharing your e4 offer?
      Apr 28
    • Amazon / Eng bCxp50
      Don't have hard numbers yet; working with the recruiter to put together a case before going to the comp committee. I have a competing offer from Snap and my Amazon TC is around ~240 right now (TT + stock appreciation) so I'm pushing for whatever the absolute max is (I've seen 160/300/100 around here but that may be a bit dated).

      Also going on-site for Dropbox soon (which I'm kinda interested in), so this thread definitely caught my attention.
      Apr 28
    • Amazon 7ga8f
      OP
      Ah, good luck!
      Apr 28
  • Intuit readyTo🔥
    I have half your experience, don’t live in a competitive market (not Bay Area, or Seattle, or Austin) and make more.

    My advice? Fucking negotiate. Ask for more when interviewing. Tell them you want 300k up front. Before they extend an offer. Maybe you’ll land around 280k. But if they come at say 250, you can say “listen my expectation was 300, this is too low”. Not exactly in those words, but more elegantly.
    Apr 28 6
    • Intuit readyTo🔥
      220 and loc is pretty easy to figure out, process of elimination. Intuit has two big cities for SWE and one isn’t Mountain View.
      Apr 28
    • New / Eng hi2
      Did you mean one is Mountain View? Quick search on their careers website shows San Diego and Mountain View why the most openings.

      Was just asking because I know Intuit has a presence in Dallas and I'm looking to move there eventually. Would be great to hear they offered that much TC to SWEs. But sounds like you're in SD. Wishful thinking on my part
      Apr 28
    • Intuit readyTo🔥
      See my DM
      Apr 28
    • Evernote zxWfvt
      Idk if thats good advice. The early expectation may disqualify him early. It’s way better to negotiate after you’ve crushed the interview. Has that worked for you?
      Apr 28
    • Intuit readyTo🔥
      To be fair I set my expectations after one really good onsite and they invited me back to get to know the team better (at my request). Then I took the job. But at that point I knew they wanted me.
      Apr 28
  • New / Eng hi2
    This should be a poll.
    Apr 28 0
  • Salesforce Liu Kang
    I thought Fb offered 100k sign-on only to returning interns
    Apr 28 3
    • Facebook / Eng yuj
      I think returning intern sign on has now increased upto $150k
      Apr 28
    • Salesforce Liu Kang
      Wow
      Apr 28
    • New vvo
      Yea no that’s wrong.... fairly sure they decreased it now by 10k to 65 for MA.
      Apr 28
  • Facebook / Eng yuj
    Join FB Seattle?
    Apr 28 2
    • Amazon 7ga8f
      OP
      Thanks, I’m trying to negotiate, but looks like the recruiter not willing to do so
      Apr 28
    • Facebook mvdj
      Fwiw, internal transfer bw locations is straightforward - you might be able to move back after about a year. Doesn't make sense the recruiter is stonewalling this request frankly. Costs the company so much to pay for relocation..
      Apr 28
  • Facebook GDSI06
    For FB, your base is above average for E4, and your stock grant is average or maybe a little low. I’d get competing offers and try to increase the stock grant if you can. Also try to see if you can work in Seattle.
    Apr 28 1
    • Amazon 7ga8f
      OP
      Thanks
      Apr 28
  • Amazon SlhS10
    Facebook >>>> Dropbox

    Dropbox's product is lame and commoditized.
    Apr 28 1
    • Amazon 7ga8f
      OP
      Can u elaborate? I know some guys move to dropbox from google and fb
      Apr 28
  • Facebook / Eng delete[]
    Dropbox is in the middle of red ocean. FB has a ton of problems but they dominate the market. See their recent earnings.
    Apr 28 0
  • LinkedIn keyboardmo
    Fb
    Apr 28 0
  • VMware biyx55
    FB
    Apr 28 0
  • Microsoft Herou
    Facebook level 4/5 are played around with. They have faster agility, so and SDE2 could easily be mapped to either.
    Apr 28 0