Facebook/Google vs startup for personal growth

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Sep 23, 2018 23 Comments

Hello. New grad here and recently got an offer from Facebook and a startup. Interned at Facebook this summer and got a very strong return offer (110/220/75). However, work was a bit boring and I feel that growth is pretty slow (referring more to learning than promotions). Also got an offer from Google for similar TC.

The first year TC of F will be ~100k higher than the startup. I felt that I really aligned with the values and culture of the startup, and there is a lot of potential for growth. They also have a very strong network and I feel that I'd learn a lot more and build stronger connections working there. It's an early stage startup and won't be able to get even remotely close to FANG level TC.

Am I crazy for even considering turning down Facebook for the startup? My priority is 100% growth and in the grand scheme of things, 100k probably isn't that much. However, 100k is still a lot of money in my position as a new grad and I'd like to get more perspective.

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TOP 23 Comments
  • Microsoft Seal6
    I would go for Google, Work there for 2 years, gain the experience and then join a startup.
    Sep 23, 2018 1
  • New / Eng Xakk
    You'll have more value securing your resume with facebook or google. It's worth doing that for a few years then knowing your worth going to a startup with that gained knowledge.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Procore / Eng
    ugwS22

    Procore Eng

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    ugwS22more
    Money won’t buy you happiness. Work that you enjoy is much more valuable than additional compensation. From reading your post, your heart is in the startup.
    Sep 23, 2018 1
    • Google AWASU7
      Yes and no. Money will afford you a house and financial freedom that could end up being worth it long term.

      However as the saying goes. More money more problems
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Hopper / Other Hhuibfdbn
    If you have Google or Facebook on your resume, you will get a callback for any startup you want later on. Take the big company offer, learn how a successful company works, and then take that knowledge to a startup that you’re passionate about and believe in.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Infusionsoft / Product dyjY66
    From a growth perspective you need to consider the maturity of the startup team. Have they done this before? Is the team high functioning? Startups are already hard having an immature or dysfunctional team can make life miserable. There are generally more opportunities in a startup for learning cross functionally as you tend to need and hire more generalists than specialists. However if you want to become a master in your specialty established companies can sometimes afford you the space to really focus on a specific area and become expert in it.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Google JPpr12
    Also, how do you know you are very well aligned with values and culture of that startup or that it'll definitely be better for growth? At FB and Google, teams matter more than companies. There would be teams at both these places where you can grow more too.

    Don't forget that these startup people are Masters at pitching themselves to candidates and VCs. Facebook and Google no longer try as hard especially in interviews
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Tapingo / IT
    Vidalburg

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    Vidalburgmore
    Worked at Microsoft, turned down Facebook to stay with my startup and regretted it. Learned more at the startup the first year than I did three years at Microsoft, but when you hit your late 20s you start looking more into the longer road, family, getting a home and being somewhere stable.

    Choose what you feel in your gut but also consider that compensation doesn't lead to happiness, but feeling like you're making what your worth does.

    I would go to either FB or Google (would recommend FB as they seem to care more about candidates turning down offers than Google from my experience). If you're looking for a challenge and to gain the most experience out of the gate, I recommend the startup but like everyone else says, big company first, growth later (who knows you might love your team and role)
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Google qsqt04
    How early stage is the startup? (Eg 10 people or 100)?

    I’m 100% a believer in going after what excites you, but just make sure you consider the risk if its very, very early stage.

    I think a slightly “safer” path is to work for FB or Google at least 1-2 years if you want to dive into early stage. This gives you good leverage if the startup fails. You’ll always easily be able to rake in offers.

    That said, if it’s 50-100 people and growing fast the risk profile is less.

    I agree with your principle you’ll learn faster in a high growth startup. No question.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • eBay la-flame
    The startup will definitely be more of a learning experience, especially if you’re given some say about how the products are built. Greater risk, but greater potential reward.

    Think about it like this: even if the startup fails, Facebook will still be an option.
    Sep 23, 2018 2
    • Google
      mmmmy

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      mmmmymore
      Fed rate is increasing. If economy goes down, there may be layoffs and lots of startup close. It's hard to go back at that time.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • New Neww
      @google you really want to decide an offer based on that logic!?
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Google 0xFFFFFFFE
    It's definitely worth having the experience of working at a big company. But don't be a lifer there
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Hired / Eng mwLS21
    I faced the same situation 6 years ago. Was very determined to go to startups for the potential reward and the organizational impact. Joined Hired when it’s 20 people and has learned so much about everything and became a sr manager. Now, I am almost 30 and just accepted the M1 offer from FB. Looking back, I definitely wasn’t prepared for the risk associated with the startup and luckily Hired didn’t fail.
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng Carmine
    I would have given head for an offer line that as a new grad
    Sep 28, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Lmjt68
    Depends on the startup, most are half-baked ideas with poor monetization plans backed by some idiot who won a previous startup race by being there early. As a whole, 10% of new businesses survive after 10 years.

    If you are in early enough and there is a sensible monization plan and exit strategy, by all means.

    Make sure you do your homework and not just latch onto "startup", "serial entreprenuer", and "stock options".
    Sep 24, 2018 0
  • Intel Asde
    From the growth perspective , definitely startup as u will learn a lot and grow up faster . Once u have done that u can switch to a higher position to fang
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Facebook i🤖i
    Startup is the best place to grow.
    Sep 23, 2018 1
    • Microsoft Lmjt68
      Or waste 5 years of your life.
      Sep 24, 2018
  • MapR Technologies !!Lazvgdu
    It all comes down to whether the startup is the real deal with respect to technology... if it is, and you feel strongly about it , then there is something to consider. However, generally speaking , odds would say you should go join Facebook/ Google. The equation changes with the X factor... do you strongly believe in company, tech, differentiation and the people?
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • New pawpaw
    Startups have more associated risk. Also how many people are there in this startup- the irony is even when there are 10 or 20 people you might not get autonomy and responsibility as much if the culture is not great. So unless you’ve hung out there, worked for say 2-3 weeks and know firsthand whether you like it or not, I wouldn’t recommend it. At FB you’ll have more choices and room to move if you’re not interested in a project. Can you do a trial period at the startup- like 2 wks and then decide?
    Sep 23, 2018 0
  • Google JPpr12
    You'll contribute more to the major decisions in that startup if you have some good experience behind your back. So take up Google or FB, work for 2 years until E4/L4 and then find a startup.
    Sep 23, 2018 0