Is it no offer or downlevel at FB and GOOG? My past experience is no offer, but I'm guessing my coding was passable, but not great. Is it possible to get an offer at top companies just with good coding?
3+ yoe last time interviewing with FB London. Failed 1 design round and did great on coding exercises (according to the recruiter) -> still reject They did get back to me about possibility of another position without interviewinf again, but then, another reject (!)
Yeah it sucks. The thing is - I rather enjoy preparing for coding, but system design rounds feel completely contrived to me, on top of being super subjective.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. System design is something you can learn and study for, and have real, concrete answers to the questions. For coding, you are actually doing something contrived and subjective, when will you ever need to do the kind of coding problems presented in interviews? At least with system design it shows you have a thorough understanding of how everything fits together. I have never failed system design but I'm always "not quite there" in coding, which is super subjective. I guess that's why I pass SRE interviews so easily.
I have 4 yoe and got L5 at Fb. I would say system design would decide L5/L4 and coding would decide offer/no offer. I think you get what I am trying to say here.
I'm actually confused at not being able to do a system design question at 20 yoe. By 7 years I had enough hands on experience to do a full stack system design implementation. I have candidates with 4 yoe do a fairly good implementation. 20 should be a breeze.
As I said, it's highly subjective. Also, most interviewers, somehow, assume that web technologies and data is mainstream, and everybody should know about it. What if you worked in other domains?
If you have a specialist background, you probably want to apply for one of the specialist job reqs.
Interviewed for FB E6 but system design killed me. Coding/behavioral went great
What were you asked OP?
I have 25 yoe. The ageism we deal with is that you cannot raise the slightest red flag in coding, design, and behavioral areas. That is, you must be perfect. Otherwise it’s a reject, and quite possibly a blacklist. It’s really cruel for us older grunts, especially generalists like me who aren’t hardcore in one specific area (eg C++ expert, quantitative, PhD).
Quit trying to victimize yourself. It’s not any better for the younger folk. Tech is in demand and so are the number of job applicants. Companies can afford to be super picky. Reach out to your networks instead
Then why have I seen multiple posts here from those admitting a bombed round yet still got an offer? Plus you overlooked my comment about being blacklisted after one attempt.
It’s really random these days and luck does play some role 🙁
Join this telegram group. Lots of resources to study system design concepts and you can also request for mock interviews. https://t.me/system_design_interviews
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I'm betting that if you're early in your career, it'll be a downlevel, but only if you excel at coding.
L5 at Google, close to 20 yoe. :(
No. If you had, say, 3 YOE and applying for L4, they might have downleveled you to L3.