CompensationFeb 15, 2018
Appleghr234

Fb Offer

Is it typical for Facebook not to match unvested RSUs? They’re off by ~100K.

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Facebook invalid Feb 15, 2018

In my limited experience Facebook is reluctant to match previous comp or other offers, but it never hurts to ask

ServiceNow fwgh76 Feb 15, 2018

Really? Why?

Apple ghr234 OP Feb 15, 2018

Why is that? I also have an offer coming from Google next week. That won’t get them to move?

Amazon 123raj Feb 15, 2018

Maybe you're not that good ?

Microsoft 🤦‍♂️ExMs Feb 15, 2018

How would they know? OP hasn't joined yet

Facebook ARIMA Feb 15, 2018

From interviews?

Facebook CywT56 Feb 15, 2018

I had to leave RSUs on the table when I left my last job. FB has a LOT of pay transparency (we have a FB group where people past their review scores, equity bumps, bonus, salary increase, and total salary). So internal equity is REALLY important.

Facebook ARIMA Feb 15, 2018

Pay transparency only driven by the employees. The system is actually pretty messed up. If you come in lowballed, expect to not make it into a good range for at least three to four years, if at all.

Facebook CywT56 Feb 15, 2018

That's true everywhere. And that's why they try not to low ball. They care more about retention than saving money on salary

Uber Sasta Feb 15, 2018

Just walk if they don’t

Apple Elon Musk! Feb 15, 2018

Why do you even want to join if TC is lower. Tell them to fuck off

Apple ghr234 OP Feb 15, 2018

TC is higher but not by much. Will push on equity.

Facebook ywn Feb 15, 2018

Wait fb is offering higher TC but you want more rsu? Don't ask them for anything til you get a higher TC offer. In fact what was the offer? Everyone here seems to be assuming you got low balled so role, level, and TC would help us determine if that's even true.

Facebook CywT56 Feb 15, 2018

Speaking from experience, not every company is as generous with yearly equity refreshes. That's one reason why you might leave RSUs on the table. Though I'm skeptical Apple is in that camp

Apple Elon Musk! Feb 15, 2018

Apple refreshes are good at low and mid range and very comparable to FB. At the high end for top performers is where FB is the clear winner where they have crazy multipliers. We don’t have those insane multipliers. But a top Apple performer will definitely make more rsu than a mid range fb employee

Apple ghr234 OP Feb 15, 2018

This is true but in my experience, Apple is great with annual refreshes. Although it does depend on org.

Amazon Ughwhip Feb 15, 2018

Focus on total yearly comp. don’t necessarily worry about what’s “left on the table”, focus on a lift for your total expected annual comp. model it out over 3 years - include everything that’s cash or equivalent (no benefits). Left on table in practice terms is often about a near term payout (could be an upcoming RSU vest). 100k RSUs doesn’t have much meaning without understanding over what time period. Create a spreadsheet and put base, bonus, and vests [not grants] (assuming some lift) year by year

Apple UuDq31 Feb 15, 2018

Which level e5 at FB?

Apple ghr234 OP Feb 15, 2018

L5 PMM

Facebook mUYx38 Feb 15, 2018

what's your apple level and role?

Facebook CywT56 Feb 15, 2018

What are they offering you?