Feel underpaid and overworked like shit 😔

Softvision AOoB63
Jul 13 35 Comments

I have 11+ YOE in backend java development.
I’m on H1B ( with 9 years in the US ... in NYC precisely ). My base is $160k ( no RSU or bonus ) . I work 50-60 hours a week mostly ( no overtime pay of course )
All the high TC posts here make me feel like shit .... yes I’m in a contracting position now but I had FTE positions before this. When I was looking out earlier this year none of offers ( FTE or contrat ) where willing to pay anywhere close to 175k 😒

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    • Intel muJbcK
      Dude, what’s wrong with you. If you can’t help atleast have some empathy. High TC doesn’t mean you’ve to be rude
      Jul 13
    • New / Eng
      tOPm88

      New Eng

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      tOPm88more
      What a asshole
      Jul 13
    • BlackRock / Eng saywat
      @intel guy - he doesn’t have basic human decency... asking for empathy is way too much 🙄
      Jul 13
  • Akamai Technologies VmQQ44
    Honestly OP is lucky to get that much. Many H1Bs are hired explicitly with the plan to underpay and overwork because options are limited.
    Jul 13 8
    • Akamai Technologies VmQQ44
      Again, your reading comprehension is incorrect here. You’re reading something into it based on your own insecurities that simply isn’t there. If anything, I’m sympathetic for your situation as H1B is abused in a way that everyone loses except the bottom line of the companies that use this program. $160K is more than most H1Bs that I know make.
      Jul 13
    • Facebook golatc
      This Akamai dude knows nothing about h1b...majority of my social circle is on h1b in faang and TC > 300K
      Jul 13
    • Akamai Technologies VmQQ44
      I suspect FAANG is an exception. The OP is not FAANG and is in NYC where I know many H1B holders who are used and abused so to speak and they’re holding out for GCs to give their companies the middle finger and get better paying jobs.
      Jul 13
    • 8x8 / Eng uGda60
      Waiting for GC and not changing job is a mistake. Most of the people i know, who are stuck with low paying job, are waiting for GC and dinf want hassle of Visa transfer and going through GC process again, rest of the H1 are doing as good as citizens.
      Jul 13
    • 8x8 / Eng uGda60
      FAANG's salary are exception for all irrespective of someone on H1 or not. You have wrong perception of H1B being paid less as I said earlier too it is more about hassel going through the Visa transfer, GC process and having travel restrictions as well as not having freedom to just quit and take your time to figure out what you want and have targetted effort towards it. One always needs to have a job just can not quit without having another one lined up because of H1 restrictions, that part sucks and sometime leads to accepting sub optimal offer. As far as salary is concerned it does not matter for most companies whether u r on H1 or not. I am at 500+.
      Jul 14
  • PennyMac Financial Services / IT
    knockdoors

    PennyMac Financial Services IT

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    knockdoorsmore
    H1B restricts you in many ways and your options are limited to employers who will sponsor you. If you're looking for stability, there is sacrifice to be made of 15 to 20k. Don't feel bad when people post about TC.
    Jul 13 9
    • Intuit 555734
      1. you're not making peanuts. you're making many times more than median Americans and probably 10x more than median Indians.
      2. citizens enjoy more privileges in their country than foreigners. if you don't like it, feel free to go where you get a better deal.
      3. voluntary participation in a 90th+ percentile income position in the wealthiest country on the planet is not slavery.
      Jul 13
    • Softvision AOoB63
      OP
      I didn’t call it slavery… I am just mentioning how unfair it is that for the same level of expertise, hard work, qualifications… I get paid way less than what my colleagues get just because they were lucky enough to be born here ... i’ve been here more than 10 years at least a decade should have been enough for me to be at par with them
      Jul 13
    • 8x8 / Eng uGda60
      I never felt any issues as far finding a suitable paying job on H1. Only issue I have with H1 is travel restrictions, as need to get Visa stamp most of the time whenever want to go on international travel. So do not blame H1 for not able to find a high paying job in software. Improve on your skills, look for companies where your experience will make most impact and get job in those. Pay depends on demand and supply and cost of living. If you are not happy with your TC, move to bay area or Seattle but be ready to pay higher price for everything. NYC is good for financial services job and bay area for software.
      Jul 13
    • Softvision AOoB63
      OP
      @uGda60 - hoe long have you been on H1 ? Are you telling me you’ve never been told my recruiters that they don’t have any visa sponsorship job openings ? Never had any offer pulled out last minute cause they don’t have any budget for visa sponsorship ?
      Jul 14
    • 8x8 / Eng uGda60
      I have been on Visa for last 9 years. May be one time for some company who is defence contractor too have citizenship requirement but those companies are anyway not not target companies.
      Jul 14
  • Nyc comp is in that range unless you work for FAANG or hedge fund or Bloomberg. Banks, insurance, fashion, consulting etc pay crap compared to Bay Area or Seattle.
    Jul 13 0
  • Seagate toti420
    You wouldn’t make 160k in your wildest dream back home. Stop whining and start appreciating what you have. I understand moving around is harder with H1B, but it’s not impossible. Want higher TC? Leetcode for 3-6 months, you’ll double your TC in no time.
    Jul 13 4
    • Softvision AOoB63
      OP
      Umm ... Cost of living being the main reason .... and many Software engineers there are now making 40-50 lacs easily .... which is way more that 160k USD here
      Jul 14
    • Seagate toti420
      I don’t doubt some SWEs make way more than here. Perhaps you should join them over there, quadruple your TC and live happily ever after. You’d be stupid to stay here if you can make so much more over there.
      Jul 14
    • Softvision AOoB63
      OP
      I did go back there and lived for 10 months .... I didn’t like it , wanted to come back here asap ( which I did )
      Jul 14
    • Seagate toti420
      Man, just leetcode hard. You’re already a SWE. Just need to pass interviews and you can easily make 250k+
      Jul 14
  • Amazon Waze
    You can switch companies under H1B. Have you tried applying to any big tech companies?
    Jul 13 0
  • Uber / Eng itsdara
    Will you work less and get paid more in India?
    Jul 13 1
    • Softvision AOoB63
      OP
      speaking from my experience of going back there and living for 10 months .... I didn’t like it and regretting it ... wanted to come back here asap ( which I did )
      Jul 13
  • AnchorFree / Eng 🍪 cookie
    I wonder if H1Bs at FAANG also get RSUs or just base? The base looks really low based on https://h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Linkedin+Corporation&job=&city=CALIFORNIA&year=2019 for example... yikes!
    Sep 6 0
  • New / Product IRHB57
    The thing that I found as a dev was 50-60 was norm. Plus another 10-15 a week keeping up with what’s next. I also got burned out and moved on to project management. Is it less stressful? In some ways yes it’s better, but mostly still feel like an indentured servant working for the man for his hopes and dreams, sucking whatever life I have left.
    Jul 13 0

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