Feeling the burn out

Amazon gYLH88
Sep 4 37 Comments

Been having issues with the manager at work for multiple months and eventually will be put on PIP i.e. leave.

Been trying to find a new role externally (as I am blocked internally), there are a tonne but the recruitment processes are incredibly long and I have 0 motivation at the moment (mainly because I wake up to 90 emails a day from recruiters with more roles and what not).

I started some side freelance work which is resulting in longer term contracts (pay is good infact better than my current company) but I’m feeling burned out and I am only able to work 4-5 hours a day properly on this which isnt enough.

I am also trying to complete my part time Masters as well as practice leet code etc for future interviews for roles I want.

I am trying to also get back into good shape so have a PT 3 times a week but again I barely turn up to sessions because I always feel exhausted.

I feel like this is way too much and having more of an effect on my health. I have been to a therapist and she said I’m not depressed just taking too much on.

What I was thinking as a plan of action:
1. Leave my FAANG once the stock vests so that burden is less.
2. Stop recruiting entirely (unless I see a
3. Finish my Masters over the next 8-9 months and focus on leet code and prep.
4. Pick up 1-2 max side jobs for the income and to keep my skills fresh.
5. Move to an area where COL is cheaper in the UK and keep my fitness and health in check. Come back stronger than ever (mentally and physically).

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TOP 37 Comments
  • Bloomberg
    offByOme

    Bloomberg

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    offByOmemore
    You are trying to do *way* too much at the same time, set your priorities and move things to the backlog ...
    Sep 4 12
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      Keep which job? I have to leave the FAANG this month.

      Yup I am seeing a specialist. I eat super clean, vitamins, gym, am lean, I just feel very burned out for the past few months.
      Sep 4
    • Amazon / Eng
      popozao

      Amazon Eng

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      popozaomore
      Lots of sleep and not feeling energy, something is wrong. I know you’re burned out, are you also depressed?

      Please get help if you are. Health always comes first.
      Sep 4
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      I saw a counsellor she said I’m mentally fine but something does seem medically off hence I’m seeing a specialist.
      When I’m awake I feel fine mostly and am able to focus on emails etc but I’m not awake enough hours to make much move. That is the issue.
      Sep 4
    • Symantec spy hunter
      Have a sleep study done to eliminate possibility of sleep apnea
      Sep 4
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      Yes am seeing a specialist this month so I can be put under observation.
      Sep 4
  • Microsoft orki
    Thank you for sharing this , honestly you accepting the reality and reaching out for help itself shows that you will do fine. You are organizing your life and prioritizing mental health over everything else , that is a great start.
    Sep 4 0
  • Adobe mercury10
    I don't think you should leave Amazon before you need to. You already know pip is coming, and it is what it is.

    Try to hit your stock vest date. Try and use your vacation and really disconnect and recharge. Go find a beach, don't do a trip where you change cities every couple days. Go somewhere where you can chill the fuck out because you sound exhausted.

    Then, just focus on job hunting and let your work take a back seat. Pick your favorite 2 or 3 companies and focus on those. Don't worry about work so much, just try to keep those paychecks coming as long as possible.

    If you wait for them to let you go, I think you get unemployment, which is a nice financial cushion.

    Good luck man, you're going to love life outside of Amazon. Probably.
    Sep 4 8
    • Adobe mercury10
      Yeah, like you might as well give yourself a little more bandwidth and postpone the expense imo.
      Sep 4
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      Makes sense :)
      Sep 4
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      Note: 20 hours a week of freelance is more than my FAANG pay.
      Sep 4
    • Adobe mercury10
      Where did you find the freelance job?
      Sep 4
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      Friends friend - was doing some stuff on the weekend for them for fun (as I was bored at FAANG) they were impressed and said they can offer longer just let them know. Everyone has data issues I am useful in a lot of places just wish my brain was more ready for the work and this thing with FAANG didn’t happen. I think it’s burned me more... the freelance is stable also min 6 months they said if I wanted full time after masters I can have it also. Most are 2-3 year projects. This is why I thought freelance 20-30 hours + masters + leet code a little a day + focus on my health and fitness and general well-being is better than slaving away at FAANG trying to find a new job and what not.
      Sep 4
  • Amazon gYLH88
    OP
    The side hustle projects are super interesting tbh hence I’m also getting burned as there are so many lol.
    Sep 4 4
    • Deloitte / Mgmt Helfrich
      Then you have to manage your time . Side hustle is optional. Your job kinda isn't.
      Sep 4
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      The side hustle = job? FAANG is no more now for me.
      Sep 4
    • Deloitte / Mgmt Helfrich
      Sir, you have the answer to life.
      The person that can make a side hustle a job and be happy with it. Not a lot of people can or have the discipline to even if they are skilled enough or have familial restrictions ...
      I'd advise you to plan your life so your side becomes your main and continue on a path of self improvement. When you want to relax and let companies handle benefits and whatnot, go back to employment as a cool down from the hustle. Something you can easily do and excel at. Forget leveling up and all that (unless you can easily do so after hustling ). You live for you .
      Sep 4
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      Yes sorry as you can see my brain is mush. Tbh these side contracts are not 1-2 day projects. They are min 3 month projects. And different industries and areas but all Data Engineering still so my skills will get better if anything.
      This is why I thought I should focus on the side stuff and finish Masters, it’s only for 8-9 months, then there will always be jobs in the market if I want to come back. But at the moment my brain isn’t thinking straight hence I posted up here.
      Sep 4
  • Symantec spy hunter
    So many people on this site being destroyed by Amazon work culture. I will never work there, thank god I have choices
    Sep 4 2
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      Tbh I think it’s caught up as I’ve been sustaining a lifestyle with all of these pressures for a while and also had a relationship breakup which sort of started to send things downhill for me. Just trying to get back afloat as I like life generally, I actually find leet code and engineering fun, I enjoy my studies etc just want to balance everything. When I mean burnt out I literally mean from all angles lol.
      Sep 4
    • Amazon kobain
      I don't work hard at all, it's very easy to trick the system. You just come up with excuses that managers and colleagues can't challenge.
      Sep 8
  • Deloitte / Mgmt Helfrich
    Finish your masters. It's the only true investment in yourself
    Leetcode
    Ramp up on side hustle (you're preparing to leave anyway, nothing worse can happen with some well positioned PTO)
    Stop recruiting
    Prepare to leave AMZN (if you can after vestment; but don't sweat it) before PIP and focus on making sure hustle a main hustle to survive on
    Heal your burn
    Start applying again

    In that order. You first always .
    Sep 4 2
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      This is the order I was thinking also. It’s also better for recruiting as the Masters is in Comp Sci so would open up US options maybe.
      I guess my only concern is the ‘gap’. Don’t want to become lazy and the replies above seem to indicate finding a job is more important?
      Sep 4
    • Deloitte / Mgmt Helfrich
      People have gaps all the tine. Tell whoever asks you in an interview that you left to complete a personal project and describe a client's project you are passionate about (or better still, one you own for yourself) as the reason why .

      The others above are not paying attention to the fact that you're burnt, a nicer passion and want you to go back to slavery (non-maliciously) . Focus on you .
      Sep 4
  • Google 🎖Me🐎
    I love your approach. Go for it!
    Sep 4 0
  • Microsoft HRguy
    1) If you see that you’re on track for PIP and no way around it, prioritize finding a new role - internally or externally.
    2) double down on leetcode to help skill up on interviewing
    3) stop or minimize the side gigs so you can make #2 and 3 happen (eg Do one side gig at most)
    4) do what you need to do on masters
    5) put off uk until you finish degree and job change. Consider jobs that may open up a job transfer oppty
    Sep 4 1
    • Amazon gYLH88
      OP
      1. Yeah external is the only option - my manager really doesn’t like me.
      2. The issue is this will take at least 3 months as I am behind (I moved into DE internally but now for roles externally you basically need to be an SDE level).
      3. Yes I planned to take max 1 freelance gig to pay the bills and keep me afloat while I finished masters and prepared for interviews.
      4. Ok.
      5. You mean don’t relocate to a cheaper place? Or look for jobs that would relocate me? A few have come that fit this but again I’m feeling so burnt out I can barely leave my flat at the moment.
      Sep 4