Been having issues with the manager at work for multiple months and eventually will be put on PIP i.e. leave. Been trying to find a new role externally (as I am blocked internally), there are a tonne but the recruitment processes are incredibly long and I have 0 motivation at the moment (mainly because I wake up to 90 emails a day from recruiters with more roles and what not). I started some side freelance work which is resulting in longer term contracts (pay is good infact better than my current company) but I’m feeling burned out and I am only able to work 4-5 hours a day properly on this which isnt enough. I am also trying to complete my part time Masters as well as practice leet code etc for future interviews for roles I want. I am trying to also get back into good shape so have a PT 3 times a week but again I barely turn up to sessions because I always feel exhausted. I feel like this is way too much and having more of an effect on my health. I have been to a therapist and she said I’m not depressed just taking too much on. What I was thinking as a plan of action: 1. Leave my FAANG once the stock vests so that burden is less. 2. Stop recruiting entirely (unless I see a 3. Finish my Masters over the next 8-9 months and focus on leet code and prep. 4. Pick up 1-2 max side jobs for the income and to keep my skills fresh. 5. Move to an area where COL is cheaper in the UK and keep my fitness and health in check. Come back stronger than ever (mentally and physically).
I love your approach. Go for it!
1) If you see that you’re on track for PIP and no way around it, prioritize finding a new role - internally or externally. 2) double down on leetcode to help skill up on interviewing 3) stop or minimize the side gigs so you can make #2 and 3 happen (eg Do one side gig at most) 4) do what you need to do on masters 5) put off uk until you finish degree and job change. Consider jobs that may open up a job transfer oppty
1. Yeah external is the only option - my manager really doesn’t like me. 2. The issue is this will take at least 3 months as I am behind (I moved into DE internally but now for roles externally you basically need to be an SDE level). 3. Yes I planned to take max 1 freelance gig to pay the bills and keep me afloat while I finished masters and prepared for interviews. 4. Ok. 5. You mean don’t relocate to a cheaper place? Or look for jobs that would relocate me? A few have come that fit this but again I’m feeling so burnt out I can barely leave my flat at the moment.
Finish your masters. It's the only true investment in yourself Leetcode Ramp up on side hustle (you're preparing to leave anyway, nothing worse can happen with some well positioned PTO) Stop recruiting Prepare to leave AMZN (if you can after vestment; but don't sweat it) before PIP and focus on making sure hustle a main hustle to survive on Heal your burn Start applying again In that order. You first always .
This is the order I was thinking also. It’s also better for recruiting as the Masters is in Comp Sci so would open up US options maybe. I guess my only concern is the ‘gap’. Don’t want to become lazy and the replies above seem to indicate finding a job is more important?
People have gaps all the tine. Tell whoever asks you in an interview that you left to complete a personal project and describe a client's project you are passionate about (or better still, one you own for yourself) as the reason why . The others above are not paying attention to the fact that you're burnt, a nicer passion and want you to go back to slavery (non-maliciously) . Focus on you .
The side hustle projects are super interesting tbh hence I’m also getting burned as there are so many lol.
Then you have to manage your time . Side hustle is optional. Your job kinda isn't.
The side hustle = job? FAANG is no more now for me.
I don't think you should leave Amazon before you need to. You already know pip is coming, and it is what it is. Try to hit your stock vest date. Try and use your vacation and really disconnect and recharge. Go find a beach, don't do a trip where you change cities every couple days. Go somewhere where you can chill the fuck out because you sound exhausted. Then, just focus on job hunting and let your work take a back seat. Pick your favorite 2 or 3 companies and focus on those. Don't worry about work so much, just try to keep those paychecks coming as long as possible. If you wait for them to let you go, I think you get unemployment, which is a nice financial cushion. Good luck man, you're going to love life outside of Amazon. Probably.
The longest I can stretch it out is this month (by then my stock vests). So I will be officially gone by the end of the month. I am planning a holiday for sure as my brain is completely dead. You said focus on job hunting. You mean full time or finish my masters and do the side hustle? I already have contracts lined up in that space. As for the top 2-3 companies, agreed, hence I need to go through leet code and then be prepared. But I need time for all of this stuff...
I'd probably put the masters on hold, you might end up somewhere with tuition reimbursement. You need to talk to your academic advisors about your options wrt how you can pause and resume. Otherwise sounds good man.
Thank you for sharing this , honestly you accepting the reality and reaching out for help itself shows that you will do fine. You are organizing your life and prioritizing mental health over everything else , that is a great start.
So many people on this site being destroyed by Amazon work culture. I will never work there, thank god I have choices
Tbh I think it’s caught up as I’ve been sustaining a lifestyle with all of these pressures for a while and also had a relationship breakup which sort of started to send things downhill for me. Just trying to get back afloat as I like life generally, I actually find leet code and engineering fun, I enjoy my studies etc just want to balance everything. When I mean burnt out I literally mean from all angles lol.
I don't work hard at all, it's very easy to trick the system. You just come up with excuses that managers and colleagues can't challenge.
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You are trying to do *way* too much at the same time, set your priorities and move things to the backlog ...
I agree. Given the list above what do you recommend?
Put the master's on hold for now. Ignore recruitment emails and apply to roles directly. Get eight hours of sleep. Exercise more.