Females: dressing up for work?

Panasonic Avionics iJvK58
Aug 11, 2018 89 Comments

There are only a few females in SWE and most wear comfortable clothing: jean/tshirt or blouse/tennis shoes. I am one of them. Lately, our company merged program managers that face customers under the SWE umbrella. PM's have almost the same ratio of males and females. Almost all females dress up:heels, skirts, hair and nails did but the caliber of most is on the basic and sometimes, one or two looking trashy than classy: Tatas hanging out, short skirt, cowgirl boots, very bad makeup and long nails. Sighs.

I love getting dressed up with full makeup when going out on the weekends, but am wayyy too lazy to do it everyday for work.

What do you all like to wear to work? Makeup? Nails? If so, is there any other reason than liking it?

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  • Upstart imherenow
    Sort of off topic but as a male engineer that wears jeans (or shorts) and t-shirt every day, I sort of think less of other engineers (no matter the gender) if they dress up regularly. It sorta feels like they're trying to compensate for the lack of skill by trying to look fancy.
    Aug 11, 2018 25
    • Roku Starbuk
      I’ve worked with plenty of underdressed bozos. That statement is laughable. Worked with a guy who regularly came in flip flops and shorts. Worst person I’ve ever worked with.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Roku Starbuk
      Plenty of their examples of the “same t-shirt and hoodie all the time” types who came in at 11, left at 5, and said there’s too much work to do.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Airbnb jim.hodlen
      this escalated quickly😂
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Upstart imherenow
      LOL! Starbuk and fj, you got way too offended here... maybe because I hit on something sensitive here... maybe you guys are overdressed bozos? :-)
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Roku Starbuk
      The only nerve you struck is he one yOu struck in your hubris and self righteousness. I have no self confidence issues and I make a ton of money. Just trying to show you how narrow minded you are. By the way I can find some underdressed hobos for you.
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Amazon so what
    There is a female engineer on my team who dresses sexy at work. I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand I do believe that people should basically be free to dress how they please. On the other when she comes to my office for 1:1 wearing a skirt that barely covers anything it's pretty distracting.

    She is a great engineer by the way, but I wonder if I should tell her to tone it down a little.
    Aug 11, 2018 19
    • New
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      When you go to the beach, you tell females to tone it down? Are you distracted from enjoying the water and sands because there are lots of females there? If you can't control yourself, the problem is you. Tame yourself
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Dude r u Indian? Control your hormones, stop ogling at her ass.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      NADM63

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      This is the logic some Muslims use to force women to be covered up from head to toe.

      It's not her problem that she's sexy and wants to feel good by looking good. The problem is with the men who "get distracted" by that. The same logic some use to tell a rape victim that she was looking for it by dressing "provocatively".

      You're responsible for controlling yourself, don't blame it on how others dress.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • PeerStreet / Other
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      Lmao this thread is too much. If an employee chooses to wear the uniform of a prostitute, she should go work as one
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Amazon so what
      The logic is not the same as if some Muslims claim anything is sexual. That's a ridiculously extremist position and it's total BULLSHIT. They are extremists in one direction, you are an extremist in the other direction.

      You know the difference between a woman who shows up to work intending to be sexually provocative, versus one just dressed comfortably. We ALL know.

      By your logic we should pretend that if someone comes to work dressed like a Playboy bunny, installs a stripper pole at her desk, and twerks, she isn't sexualizing the workplace and anyone who complains is just like a Muslim extremist demanding everyone wear a burka.

      It's wrong for people to sexualize women who are just dressing professionally and it's wrong for women to sexualize themselves at work by dressing provocatively.
      Aug 12, 2018
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    • Cisco Avr1UsK
      Insecure male spotted
      Aug 11, 2018
  • PayPal Archer12
    I used to wear dresses or skirts and light makeup. But some male coworkers gazing at my leg made me super uncomfortable.. now I only wear jeans..
    Aug 11, 2018 18
    • Amazon b0mb
      Neither PayPal nor I said anything to validate your hypothesis (or belief) that you so badly want to prove. So where you coming to that conclusion?
      Aug 11, 2018
    • Amazon so what
      Compliment: positive comment from a guy a girls likes

      Creepy: the same, but from a guy she's not interested in

      That's reality. It's also reality that if you dress sexy you are sexualizing yourself. Which is normal since you're human and we're all sexual beings. Nothing wrong with sexualizing ourselves now and then! It's how the species perpetuates itself after all.

      But I certainly get dressing conservative to keep that aspect of your life out of the workplace where we all want to be valued for our intellectual attributes, and I for one appreciate that. Thanks.
      Aug 11, 2018
    • Amazon Maxentropy
      @bomb this happened at Amazon?
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Google / Eng BiggusD
      Guy not getting why this is creepy is the reason we can't have nice things.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Amazon so what
      Here's the thing none of you want to acknowledge here: some women do this on purpose. Most don't. 90% dress professionally (which in our industry often means jeans and a t-shirt but can be a variety of things). But the ones who come to work dressed sexy know EXACTLY what they are doing.

      It's not only men who make inappropriate comments who are sexualizing the workplace.. These women are also sexualizing it. They ate sexualizing themselves in purpose and they know it.

      Stop telling me we're supposed to ignore that they did that. Let's talk about how that's inappropriate in the first place. Stop sexualizing yourself at work.
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Salesforce / Eng Khaleesii
    I am a SWE and I really like to wear good dresses or skirt to work although nothing showy and no makeup. Work is the place I go everyday and a good dress gives me happiness so those are my reasons. But in my experience it doesn’t leave good first impression that you are good at your work. Since you have seen all the male comments that came in your post, I don’t need to explain you much on why so. Males have hard time digesting the fact that someone can dress up and work too. I have gotten weird comments for my dressing in the start like are you going to be meeting CEO today etc. But once these male in my team started seeing me everyday nicely dressed they stopped saying anything. So if you don’t care on comments and people thinking then there is no problem.
    Aug 12, 2018 8
    • Amazon Maxentropy
      Was just agreeing with u!
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Salesforce / Eng Khaleesii
      Sorry for not able to understand it before, yeah those comments came in starting when they were trying to assimilate it but after sometime it stopped.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Amazon Maxentropy
      Yeah be urself!
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Amazon Maxentropy
      Once a khaleesi always a khaleesi lol
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Amazon Jonsnowden
      Khaleesi dm..
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Panasonic Avionics iJvK58
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    Sighs. There's a reason that this question is for females and under women in tech. Just curious to see how female engineers at other companies dressed or thought about it. The question has nothing to do with insecurities, lack of work, amount of effort put in at work, and intellect. It has everything to do with what they like and the amount effort put into dressing up when we spend hours mostly behind a screen, sitting down.

    BTW, we do have a dress code, but not sure how much of it is enforced. Business casual at minimum. No flip flops, sandals (men) or even shorts (men). Even if we are in sunny socal. So yea, pajamas are out of the picture. 😂
    Aug 12, 2018 1
    • New fbn00b
      I am not sure why so many men were compelled to reply in a post addressed to Females. Patriarchy much ?
      Aug 12, 2018
  • eBay xcv
    I work in non engineering role and like to dress casually but smartly, don't wear heavy make up, get nails done once in a while, wear heels sometimes but mostly flats or sneakers....I feel no matter how you dress ultimately it's your work that speaks....I know people who have terrible dressing sense but are very well respected for their work and on the other end there are some people who look so presentable but lack substance
    Aug 11, 2018 0
  • Autodesk AWFK75
    Honestly....

    This question shows SWE in your company are not working hard enough that they care about dresses.

    In my team...we are so swamped..that we are happy to see a person just working..doesnt matter if a girl or boy ...as long as they are working..what they wear is not even important enough to be noticed.(unless they are awkwardly naked)

    I am mentioning this only cuz you mentioned SWE.

    We have both male and females coming in pyajamas at times. There are few people who are always dressed up too.


    But who cares?
    (PS: I am team lead..so I literally monitor their work..dont give shit about dress n stuff...I am myself busy coding too)
    Aug 11, 2018 4
    • Lyft RBBU77
      When Will you start your life
      Aug 11, 2018
    • Panasonic Avionics iJvK58
      OP
      Uh, Panasonic has a minimum dress code of business casual. No pajamas.

      The funny thing is that, although you are the team lead, you still know how your team dresses. So you are paying attention to more than just work. By your logic, sounds like team leads at Autodesk need more work. 🙄

      And like I said in my other response, this post has nothing to do with the amount of work, intellect, etc. I am asking other females what they like wear at work. It is a very simple question.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Autodesk AWFK75
      Haha...nope....Its not that I am paying attention to their clothes. It registers in your mind automatically as I visually collect loads of info about workplace and colleagues daily (eyes open syndrome). But that info never pops up until I see post like this^^. And yes, at least for my team, team lead also works. Thats not true for whole Autodesk though.

      Pajamas and all varies from company to company.
      Autodesk is pretty chill.

      I difnt want to make it about amount of work or intellect. Sorry if you felt that way. I was only taken aback by the concern put into clothing, but then I am not a female :p

      Specifically I noticed how you said at the end that you cannot dress up everyday as it is too much effort for you

      I just wanted to let you know that there are many like you..some are also so much into the work that other things seem secondary. Thats all I wanted to convey.
      Aug 12, 2018
    • Autodesk AWFK75
      @RBBU77...I do have a life..work hard..play harder!
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Facebook KBiM22
    I have dozens of free T shirts at home, but never wear them for work lol...I cannot see why female engineers have to wear hoody/jeans/t shirt like others. It’s boring for me. I’m stylish and I’m happy with how I am. However, I barely wear skirt/short to the office simply because AC at fb is freezing cold...but heels sometimes and make up every day.
    Aug 13, 2018 0
  • Google bobateea
    Hmm have this exact question. Am starting at a new company (which has a younger & more stylish crowd), wondering how should I dress. I love dressing up, wearing heels and skirts, and I'm sexy in a feminine and classy way (can't help it!). I don't want to be judged based on my look, but why can't I enjoy looking good?!
    Aug 23, 2018 1
    • Amazon laet
      No problem so long as you don't mind being looked at by everyone rather than only the people whose attention you want. I'm all in favor of people expressing themselves sexually at work but these days the #metoo movement is pushing for the workplace to be sexless.

      In a truly fair world there would be no conflict between being feminine (or masculine) and being professional.

      But we don't live in such a world. We live in a world where the assumption (and too often the reality) is that a guy who comments on a woman's physical attractiveness is also discriminating professionally and/or making the workplace "poisoned" and not just being human.

      I don't think it's realistic to create a sterile environment populated by humans, it's not how we are wired. On the other hand bias against women and toxic workplaces are a real thing too.

      One day we will figure this out.
      Aug 23, 2018
  • Intuit / Design canary
    I love wearing midi dresses and moderate makeup. It’s my daily ritualistic warpaint before I go seize the day. Everyone else’s opinions be damned.
    Aug 13, 2018 0
  • Amazon so what
    Here is a politically incorrect observation:

    There's a dress code for both men and women, but it's almost always some womelan who pushes the limits of the dress code, trying to sexualize herself.

    It may be sexist in the sense that we live in a society which encourages women to do this. That suggests that our society as a whole is setting different expectations for women and no doubt that's a cultural prejudice we've all absorbed, etc.

    But it is nevertheless women (some of them) who do this. You don't see men coming to work trying to sexualize themselves. Maybe sometimes you see gay men doing that, but generally the biases in our society encourage women, but not men, to present themselves this way.

    We can discuss why this is an unhealthy bias in our society but let's face that is a bias that at least some women have internalized.
    Aug 12, 2018 0
  • New / Eng 🌲50
    Dress in whatever way you think would make you the most productive comfortable at work as SWE
    Aug 12, 2018 0