I've always considered myself to be an equalitarian, feeling that people shouldn't call themselves as feminists, but rather equalitarians. There are so many issues that the LGBTQ community faces. Men also face issues. How long until we stop being feminists and become equalitarians? PS: Asking this with zero hate towards anyone. Just looking for a healthy discussion.
Unfortunately you’ll not get a healthy discussion on this topic. Many people who identify as feminists are misandrists (and get away with it coz that’s a form of sexism that is tolerated by the current society), and they’d always come up with the most ridiculous reasons to stereotype men as privileged, for their own personal and political advantage.
This is precisely why I left CA. Politics and Identity became such a huge issue, that even best friends turn into full on enemies.
Men are wonderful. I couldn’t and wouldn’t want a world without them. Feminists want the small minority of men (and some women) to treat men and women as equal. Straight and lgbt as equal. People of color and white people as equal. Plenty of men are feminists, too, and great allies and advocates for equality for all.
Google it and you'll see pretty good arguments for the name. I'm all for Equality, but also all for good naming conventions so once I understood the arguments, I accepted "feminism" is a valid designation
“the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.” “another term for egalitarian.” “relating to or believing in the principle that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities.” They are fundamentally descriptors
Try searching for "why is it called feminism instead of egalitarianism"
Late stage “isms” would, justly, evolve into egalitarianism. Bravo to you for making that transition. However, there are people that would like to abandon these things as well - not to evolve past the concept, but to destroy it and regress. This is why others continue to identify with the term, deservedly so. We need the concept of feminism, and other isms, as a basis toward progress and to defend against regression.
For a long time, minorities were underrepresented and had to silently deal with discrimination. Finally there are people who speak on their behalf. Times are changing. So we should embrace the change. In this new age, no one will be judged based on their color/gender/age. Also, I have a theory on this. Why do we have feminists? Why do we have people who are saying we need to support women in tech? Because if these are not enforced, then very few will support women and things will remain the same as it has been for ages. So the only reason feminists are there is to bring in the “equality” which was missing for a long time. Before feminists came, there was no equality anywhere. I am saying that I’m so proud of the changes companies are bringing. For example- Today morning I was so happy to see an email from someone mentioning the rules that other employees have to follow to respect Ramadan. One of the rules was to not eat in your office desk during lunch time and instead eat it in the break area. This does not mean that my employer is telling me to stop eating. It’s a huge step that my employer took to respect and include a minority group. While I’m not a Muslim, I am so proud.
Can you explain eating at desk during Ramadan? Sorry for the ignorance, I don’t understand it
Basically during Ramadan, some people fast the whole day and break their fast in the evening if I’m not wrong. So, if employees want to eat, they can be considerate by eating in the lunch room instead of eating in their desks. Some people multitask by eating and working at the same time. But when we eat, our neighbors can smell the food and they might feel hungry. I think that’s the main reason.
Why are you opposed to just using feminism as the word? It's what everyone else uses. It means essentially the same thing in practice.
No, many feminists themselves have said men’s issues are what they don’t care /consider unrelated to feminism
The common definition accepted by most everyone I know and by most everything I've read is inclusive of men's issues.
I think most feminists would agree that equality is the goal.
Equality of... what, exactly?
Google the definition of feminism.
Concur