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Free Meng Wanzhou!

Uber HuaweiCFO
Dec 5

Canada arrests the CFO of Huawei and plans to extradite her to US on charges of violating American sanctions on trading with Iran. Does anyone see the multiple layers of injustice here? Imagine if Pakistan arrested the CFO of Google for doing business with Taiwan which violated Chinese sanctions against Taiwan. What a brazen violation of human rights and act of aggression. Yet some US politicians have the gall to call Chinese trading with Iran “aggression”. Whatever you think of Iran, this is an outrage. No nation has the right to force its will on another nation like this. American totalitarianism over the rest of the world needs to confrontés and stopped NOW!

No to US imperialism! No to violation of sovereignty! No to violation of human rights! Free Meng Wanzhou NOW!

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  • Google
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    China:

    >run huge prison camps for Muslims
    >evade sanctions on Islamist regime to sell them desktop computers
    >complain when arrested for evading sanctions

    🍿

    Also:

    > What a brazen violation of human rights and act of aggression.

    You wouldn’t know a human right if it smacked you in the face with Mill’s “Theory of Liberty”
    Dec 512
    • Google
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      It’s like you don’t know how extradition works. Besides, Canada’s the 51st state.

      Step 1: imprison and torture a million innocent Muslims
      Step 2: evade sanctions to help Iran, and Islamist state and high-profile sponsor of Muslim terrorists, acquire nuclear weapons

      Bold strategy Cotton, let’s see how it works out for ‘em
      Dec 5
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Looks like you don’t know that you just broke Chinese laws:

      1. Spread lies about Chinese policy towards Muslims.

      2. Spread more lies to help American aggression against Iran and commit more war crimes there

      According to your logic, China now has the right to extradite you to face criminal charges in China. See anything wrong with that?

      I’m afraid you are a bit confused about sanctions. No country has the right to force another country to follow its sanctions. Do you get that? Chinese do not have any legal obligation to implement American sanctions. Just like China can’t criminalize American flouting of Chinese arms trade restrictions against Taiwan or Iran can’t arrest Americans for violating Iranian sanctions against Israel.
      Dec 5
    • Google
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      You really, truly don’t get what “rights” are or how they work. I guess the total lack of a liberal arts education would be expected to produce this result.

      Iran arrests Americans for stuff like that all the time, by the way. China would too, if their leaders determined it was worth the political cost.
      Dec 5
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Give me an example of where Iran arrests an American for what they did with another country in contravention of Iranian law. The fact that you can’t name an example for China does not justify your unfounded assertion that China would.
      Dec 5
    • Google
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      Nah man, I’m going to sleep. And when I wake up, Canada and the U.S. will still have an extradition treaty. 👮‍♂️👮‍♀️
      Dec 6
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      USA has more people incarcerated than china even if you include the absurdly exaggerated Muslim camp figures with their normal inmates. In absolute terms, not per capita.

      And if you question our moral authority you’re a fucking communist
      Dec 6
    • VMware BobbleHat
      China just kills prisoners to keep the headcount low.
      Dec 6
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      I thought t hey were re-education camps? Wouldn’t they say death camp otherwise?
      Dec 6
    • Quantcast JDYl47
      Yo Google guy, there’s a tool called Google Search. It really helps using it before babbling the bullshit you do
      Dec 8
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      Can u link pls? I must be using other thing bc the only thing I see are a bunch of BS articles based on an anonymously sourced interview conducted by UN officials. Is it an app?
      Dec 8
  • Google
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    Look up Wang Yu. Human rights lawyer forced to “confess” on state TV after her innocent 16-year-old son was arrested in Thailand at China’s request, extradited to China, and beaten by police.

    Keep crying about “human rights” though, stay on-message with People’s Daily.
    Dec 522
    • Thumbtack HahaTT
      Proof please. Use facts not your mouth
      Dec 9
    • Google
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      Dec 9
    • Thumbtack HahaTT
      Great, I see two polices walking casually in a peaceful street, thanks for the fact
      Dec 9
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      If that's what you got out of the article you are willfully blind and you brainwashed opinion is worth nothing.
      Dec 9
    • Thumbtack HahaTT
      I only trust what we can see and scientifically systematically proved. Oftentimes political opinions favor the louder side, not necessarily the wiser side or right side, so not trustworthy to me. Just like you. No matter how much BS you said, I don’t see any real points in it. Bye
      Dec 9
    • Google
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      Associated Press, the Wall Street Journal, the BBC, Deutsche Welle, and numerous other agencies have produced a ton of well-sourced reporting on Xinjiang. If you close your eyes and put fingers in your ears, that’s up to you.

      One example:

      http://www.chinafile.com/reporting-opinion/postcard/million-citizens-occupy-uighur-homes-xinjiang
      Dec 9
    • Thumbtack HahaTT
      lol bye
      Dec 9
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      HahaTT: the proof was provided but your mind isn't capable of processing it because it would require you to face truths about your country that you don't want to face. You are proud of China and those awful crimes are incongruous with your beliefs.

      I will give you a path forward:

      The Chinese people are an amazing people, with a strong work ethic, strong families, and a belief in the merits of education and work. They are kind, conscientious, and dedicated. As a culture the Chinese have again and again gifted the world with technological and social advances. If you are a Chinese person you can and should be immensely proud of your heritage and your countrymen.

      The Chinese government, on the other hand, is a corrupt and brutal dictatorship that has done immeasurable harm to the Chinese people and the Chinese culture. It's corrosive, cynical disrespect for human rights and the rule of law has damaged the Chinese culture to the point where fraud and counterfeiting have become commonplace, despite the otherwise honest nature of the people.

      You can and should be ashamed of that government and yet also determined to rise above it and succeed despite it. The Chinese people are going to contribute to the advance of human culture forever, but that wretched communist government has got to go.
      Dec 9
    • Google
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      HahaTT, see you again in the Eastern District Court of New York :)
      Dec 9
  • Well, did Huawei trade with Iran in violation of sanctions?
    Dec 524
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      I don't think that countries have rights. People have rights and democratic countries represent their people and can proxy their people's rights but dictatorships are fundamentally illegitimate and do not proxy the rights of the people they fail to represent

      So I think being a democracy gives a government more legitimacy and therefore more rights. We should be careful to distinguish between the people, with rights, and the government, in this sense.

      The Chinese and Iranian people have the same human rights as Americans or Germans, but the Chinese and Iranian governments are not legitimate and do not represent those rights the way the German or American government does.
      Dec 7
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      I think you might be confusing country with government. For example, a country has sovereignty regardless of what its government is.

      Your last paragraph though is pretty dangerous because it takes an ideology to the extreme. People in those countries might consider their governments to be legitimate representatives, and if their government don’t have as much right to represent their country as say the government of some other countries, aren’t you putting countries on an uneven playing field? That’s actually today’s version of the imperialist era’s white mans burden which was used to also justify inequality in international affairs.
      Dec 7
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      I do not recognize dictatorships at being legitimate. We are forced to deal with to them as a practical matter but they should be accorded no respect and they certainly do not have rights.

      The communist party of China if a cancer and so is the regime in Iran.
      Dec 7
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      That’s your belief and you are free to keep to it. Others think otherwise and may consider your opinion to be extremist. Oh well brainwashing works huh?
      Dec 7
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      I really don't have time for people who are against democracy. You're actually the enemy.
      Dec 7
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      I like democracy too. I don’t think it gives a government or country more “rights” in any sense especially vis a vis non democratic countries. It’s a fundamental difference of opinion.

      Iran is a force for good in the Middle East. It has been maligned and attacked by some countries for decades, but that does not make it ok. (Check out the shoot down of an Iranian airliner in 1988 by US Navy, for which the shooter was rewarded). Lending a hand to Iran is a right and responsibility of all those who love justice.
      Dec 7
    • Google
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      > Iran is a force for good in the Middle East.

      Hahahaha

      > Lending a hand to Iran is a right and responsibility of all those who love justice.

      AhahHhahahahahHhHhAAhahaha
      Dec 8
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      Hua is just fucked
      Dec 8
    • Thumbtack vUml64
      Stay in your dreams while CHN keep on improving.
      Dec 9
    • Google
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      Sad to see wumaos at Thumbtack. Guess they’ve all bought houses in the Bay now, with the crackdown on tigers and flies
      Dec 9
  • LinkedIn / Eng
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    That's the whole point of extradition treaties. If you commit a crime that one country feels is serious enough, they can get you arrested in another country with an extradition treaty then sent to face the charges against you.

    If you don't want to get caught by that, you have two options: either don't commit any crimes, or if you do, don't go to any countries with an extradition treaty that could get you to face the charges levied against you.

    Also, you still get a trial, so it's not as if it's go straight to prison, do not pass go, nor collect $200.
    Dec 515
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      So China has the right to extradite you for breaking Chinese law (which you may not even agree with) even though you aren’t Chinese, don’t live in China, and aren’t currently in China?

      What a person from country A does with country B outside the terroritory of country C does not “break” the law of country C because country C has no jurisdiction beyond its borders and citizenship. That is a basic concept of sovereignty.
      Dec 5
    • Google
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      Shh, no one tell him about extradition treaties
      Dec 5
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Extradition treaties are not the point Equity. You are claiming that everyone on Earth has to follow the dictates of the American government. If that is not imperialism then I don’t know what is.
      Dec 6
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      Dec 6
    • LinkedIn / Eng
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      SSS, your link says that "President Barack Obama signed an executive order lifting some of the U.S. economic sanctions on Iran, the White House announced."

      Emphasis on some, not all. It's possible that the Huawei transactions still were not allowable under the remaining sanctions
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft SSS!
      All other EU countris are trying to bypass Trump's BS sanctions. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/25/eu-russia-and-china-join-forces-to-dodge-iran-sanctions.html
      Dec 6
    • China signed the treaty but then didn't enforce it. This little communist princess figured law didn't apply to her and just learned whoops it does.

      Trump didn't arrest her, Canada did, so cut the bullshit.
      Dec 6
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Can’t believe some of you defend such despicable behavior by the us and Canadian governments. In Nazi germany you would say the Jews were breaking German law. This is pure abduction.
      Dec 6
    • It is a good law. She shouldn't have broken it. What's despicable is selling banned tech to a state sponsor of terrorism.
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft Lhgomie
      Copy paste

      US authorities have been investigating Huawei since at least 2016 for allegedly shipping US-origin products to Iran and other countries in violation of US export and sanctions laws, sources told Reuters in April.

      Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
      Dec 6
  • Uber HuaweiCFO
    OP
    Does anyone see a problem with America coercing third countries to serve as their accomplice in bullying Iran?

    Some people might see a parallel with what China does vis a vis Taiwan, but how outraged do you think people would be if China arrested non Taiwanese for selling arms to Taiwan?
    Dec 511
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      You dodged my question because you realized that what America did here is heinous and indefensible. Instead, your comment is further unjustified insinuation against China. It also betrays your belief in might is right. Not just my friend.
      Dec 5
    • Google
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      The situation with Taiwan is not comparable. They are a peaceful self-governing people. Iran is led by a bunch of religious extremists bent on nuclear proliferation and the sponsorship of various insurgency movements. Obviously, sanctions on Iran’s nuclear program serve the greater good.

      I don’t fundamentally recognize the legitimacy of China’s government. They believe that might is right, so for now, we all must tolerate Xi and his Party. “Political power comes from the barrel of a gun” - that was Mao. China extradites people all the time.

      I’m having fun replying to your posts, but I’m also growing concerned about the loyalties and critical thinking skills of Chinese night janitors at Uber.
      Dec 5
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Wow Equity you failed to address any of my logic so you side step it, attack my intelligence, and finally make serious attacks against Iran and China governments. Guess what, Iran’s government thinks America’s government is a great satan, and lots of people find the governments of China and Iran perfectly legitimate so your arguments about what is the greater good needs a whole lot more support.

      China extradites people for breaking Chinese law within Chinas jurisdiction, unlike in this case with Meng.

      Insulting the thinking skills of your rival when you can’t address their points is a logical fallacy and I do recall that it is a favored tactic of the American government.

      My loyalties are none of your business.
      Dec 6
    • Google
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      China forced Uighurs who study abroad to return home by threatening their families. They do this simply
      *because those people studied abroad.*

      In classic Chinese Communist fashion, you accuse the “enemy” of doing whatever you yourself are doing, and shamelessly breeze past examples to the contrary. Were the situation reversed, you would adopt a different stance in an instant. I have seen it all before. That’s why you’re worthy of contempt.
      Dec 6
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Saying a lie a thousand times does not make it true even when the CIA manual says so

      You have still not addressed my logic but continue to insult me.
      Dec 6
    • Google
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      Your lies written in ink cannot disguise the truth written in blood.
      Dec 6
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      I pity you Equity. It’s not your fault, its the environment that you lived in which prevents you seeing facts and reasoning that contradicts what you have been told. Just don’t let yourself become their cannon fodder.
      Dec 6
    • Google
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      Thanks, I’ll choose to believe the country which doesn’t assign secret police to follow and harass journalists 🙏
      Dec 6
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      You mean the country that practices more militarism than any other in modern history, continues to have military action in too many countries to count, maintains military bases in a lot of countries, assassinates people around the world in the name of anti terrorism and national security, bullies countries and entities around the world to serve American interest. While China has its problems, at least it is a lot nicer to other countries.
      Dec 7
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  • Microsoft SSS!
    For readers who are looking for the motivation behind the smoke show:

    Trump administration attempts to hold CFO of Huawei as hostage for trade negotiation. But the reckless move is not going to work and will probably backfire just like all other political stunts he did. The last thing we want to see is trade war escalation. The stock market has been crazy enough.
    Dec 64
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      I'm fine with the trade war escalation TBQH. 🍿
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft SSS!
      What do you have anything to gain from the trade war?
      Dec 6
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      Nothing to gain or lose from the trade war in the short term. If anything, it might just deflate some of the overpriced stocks, so it could be a good opportunity to buy.

      Today's trade war related stock price fluctuations are completely irrelevant to the long term performance of the stock market (on a time horizon longer than 20 years).

      What's not irrelevant to the long term performance of the US stock market is the rampant IP theft by Chinese companies, and if the trade war manages puts a damper on that, I'm all for it.
      Dec 6
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      No brakes on the trade war train! 🚂 💨

      It’s essential to compel China to abide by international conventions such as IP protection. Long term, the alternative is economic destabilization of the U.S. and probable war with China. Nobody wants that.

      But keep speaking for “we”, Mr. H1B from Hangzhou
      Dec 6
  • Uber HuaweiCFO
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    Two wrongs don’t make a right Equity. China has internal improvements to make but that has no bearing on whether other countries can abuse China.
    Dec 53
    • Uber Metaphor
      If you like being a dog in Huawei, just leave...
      Dec 5
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Sad my fellow Uberite. Can’t find a hole in my argument so you make an irrelevant insult?
      Dec 6
    • China is a fucked up dictatorship that utterly failed to bring the Huawei criminals to justice. Maybe this little communist princess is used to ignoring the law back in China but in real countries if you break the law you get arrested
      Dec 6
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  • Intuit Tshjx22
    I am Chinese, and I think Chinese like OP should gtfo and go back to China. If you hate the US so much why stay? There are many Chinese who live here and love the US. We all left China because the government is utter shit and human rights are really non-existence there. 不要一颗老鼠屎坏了一锅粥,好日子放着不过你就滚回国吧.
    Dec 65
    • Microsoft SSS!
      Typical Chinese Trumptard! We don't really care anything about Huawei and Chinese government in the US. But Trump's political stunt is going to hurt the US in trade negotiation and trade war escalation is going to cost the US as well.
      Dec 6
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Just because someone lives in a country doesn’t mean he or she has to agree with that country on everything. Chinese Americans don’t have to be a lapdog of America.

      I might add that Chinese Americans should take a cue from some of the other ethnic groups in this country who do make their voices heard and do defend their home countries (eg Israel, middle easterners, Europeans). That’s the model we should strive for.
      Dec 6
    • Yahoo / Engtoughguy
      OP and SSS! keep saying ”we” just like communists' propaganda,what we are u talking about?
      Dec 6
    • VMware BobbleHat
      What are you talking about OP? Integrating into society is working exceptionally well for Chinese that do it. Folks that don’t, are the poor and destitute that hang on to the proud identity of the past.
      Dec 6
    • Microsoft jajakin
      The problem is that you guys are arguing each other with exact mindset communist government give to you. Let’s have some hope for rule of law.
      Dec 8
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    Spotted the Chinese shill.
    Dec 61
  • https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/25/us/politics/china-exit-ban.html

    China did this first by not letting American citizens leave China to lure their dad back in the country.
    Dec 52
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      That might not be right but at least China did not put the children in jail or charge them with any crime. It simply prevents them from leaving China, which may be bad, but explicitly said the kids were innocent.
      Dec 5
    • Google Oces12
      Chinese governments argument was that since they used Chinese national IDs while in China, they are Chinese nationals. Not saying I buy this argument, just offering a different perspective. US media don't tell is everything
      Dec 5
  • Microsoft tard
    You are a fucktard
    Dec 720
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      I’ll make one last attempt to reason with you. Such absolute ideas like democratic governments are legit but non democratic are not are not ideas to be proud of. You can be a firm advocate of democracy without taking it that far. Think about Islamic fundamentalists. They have some great things too, but if they take it to say only Islamic governments are legit, well that is going too far. Or take communist/socialist movements of the early twentieth century. That grew out of a noble effort to improve the lives of workers. It was genuinely popular and shared many characteristics with dogmatic democracy. But when communists adopted the line that only proletarian governments are legit and bourgeois regimes are bad, well that was extreme. Do you see what I’m saying? Again, not asking you to agree, but I want to make sure that my point across.
      Dec 7
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      Sorry you aren't going to convince anyone that dictatorships are legitimate.

      Here is some reading material:

      "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

      –That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
      –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
      Dec 7
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Extremists of all stripes are similar
      Dec 7
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      Democracies are by definition moderate.
      Dec 7
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Currently a democracy is the most militaristic nation in the world. How moderate
      Dec 7
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      Russia is not a democracy
      Dec 7
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Let’s look at the number of countries Russia and US are

      Invading
      Have soldiers fighting
      Have military bases
      Threatens military action against
      Military budget
      Dec 7
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      The US fights dictatorships to stop their aggression. Russia invades its neighbors in order to conquer them and add them to its empire. It frequently engages in genocide and ethnic cleansing when it wins, similar to what China does.

      Russia is fighting illegal wars of territorial conquest in Georgia, Ukraine, Crimea, Moldova, Ossetia, Tajikistan, Chechnya and Dagestan.

      Those are imperial wars of conquest, that do not result in the local people getting their country back as happened in the US wars in Kuwait or Iraq or really Afghanistan. They result in annexation and ethnic cleansing.

      Russia also spends much more of its GDP on its military than the US does as well, making it a more militarized country as well as a terrible aggressor.
      Dec 7
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Amazon: Russia fights to defend its terroritory whereas the US fights to bend other countries to its will. And the US fights way more than Russia. Russian military spending is both a smaller portion of its gdp than US and it is absolutely smaller. There is no point in debating when you refuse to recognize basic facts. That is what sets extremists apart from moderates.
      Dec 7
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      Oh look now you're defending Russia's wars of aggression. None of those places are its territory.

      You really are a piece of work, coming out to justify and defend ever depraved tyrant and war monger.

      And you are just wrong. Russia has fought way more wars, is currently fighting more wars, none of which can be justified, and spends more of its GDP on military (4.5%) than the US (3.5%).

      Maybe stop getting your news from RT and People's Daily it's totally fucked your connection to reality.
      Dec 8
  • Uber HuaweiCFO
    OP
    America is interfering in China’s legitimate economic activities. It is trying to destroy China just like it had destroyed countless other countries. Remember the lies about Iraq? Here we go again with slander against China. The propaganda drones are here on Blind spewing their venom.
    Dec 69
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      These past two years I’ve come to realize Americans are the most brainwashed people on the planet (I’m American). Even if a lot of the comments are bots/propaganda shills, the broader public will blindly adopt the narrative. It’s fucked up.
      Dec 6
    • Selling banned technologies to a state sponsor of terrorism isn't legitimate
      Dec 6
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
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      Who’s a state sponsor of terrorism? Who invaded and who defends? These terms are only used to defame or praise.
      Dec 6
    • Iran. North Korea.

      You'd have to be pretty fucking brainwashed not to see that. Iran funds Hezbollah and ships weapons to Hamas and Islamic jihad.

      China is being defamed here because of what actually does. They're are lots of nice and intelligent people in China but they have mostly been brainwashed by the evil dictatorship that controls their lives.
      Dec 6
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      I’m glad we Americans have never intentionally or unintentionally funded/armed terrorist organizations, much less trade with them.*

      *excludes the past century
      Dec 6
    • To be clear, you are trying to justify sales to Iran by China.
      Dec 6
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      China has every right to sell to Iran, its a great country which needs help against its enemies and happens to be beneficial to China too. Other countries have the right to keep out of Chinese-Iranian relations and mind their business.
      Dec 6
    • It is a state sponsor of terror that tortures its own citizens to death and dumps them in mass graves. Not unlike the govt of China, bit of an axis of evil there.
      Dec 6
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      George W Bush University
      Dec 7
  • New 0hedge
    Before xi there was Bo Xilai. His wife murdered british citzen who had helped his "playboy prince" get into exclusuve schools. Oh and his police chief ran to US embassy for fear of his life for knowing too much including how they made money by selling prisoners organs.

    Trump is nothing compared to chinese communists.

    And and what goes on in re-education camps?

    How many comedians can make fun of Xi in China the way americans do with all of US presidents.
    Dec 81
    • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
      For crying our loud, they banned the Winnie the Pooh movie!
      Dec 9
  • Apple NP Hard
    TC?

    Please don’t provide TC for Meng!
    Dec 50
  • New 0hedge
    Time for the cfo to go to reducation camp and receive liberal brainwashing to turn her into full SJW. Once thats complete unleash her back to china and watch communists fight over bathroom laws.
    Dec 71
    • This hilarious. Not commenting on the content, but the humor is A+
      Dec 8
  • OP is saying yes to Chinese imperialism, yes to China ignoring international law, yes to supporting Iranian terrorism, yes to violating human rights, and yes to treating communist party princesses as being above the law.
    Dec 60
  • Microsoft azure365
    If you violate American laws, don’t go to America or countries that have treaties with America.
    Dec 813
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/iran-travel-advisory.html

      "Do not travel to Iran due to the risk of arbitrary arrest and detention of U.S. citizens.

      There is a very high risk of arrest and detention of U.S. citizens in Iran, particularly U.S.-Iranian dual nationals.  

      Iranian authorities continue to unjustly detain and imprison U.S. citizens, including students, journalists, business travelers, and academics, on charges including espionage and posing a threat to national security. U.S.-Iranian dual nationals are particularly susceptible to arrest for these charges. Consular access to detained U.S. citizens is often denied."
      Dec 8
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/north-korea-travel-advisory.html

      "Do not travel to North Korea due to the serious risk of arrest and long-term detention of U.S. nationals. 

      Individuals cannot use a U.S. passport to travel to, in, or through North Korea without a special validation from the Department of State.

      Special validations are granted only in very limited circumstances. More information on how to apply for the special validation is available here. 

      The U.S. government is unable to provide emergency services to U.S. citizens in North Korea as it does not have diplomatic or consular relations with North Korea. Sweden serves as the protecting power for the United States in North Korea, providing limited emergency services. The North Korean government routinely delays or denies Swedish officials access to detained U.S. citizens. "
      Dec 8
    • Uber Jduwgw
      You finally admit that the US is a rogue nation on the same level as North Korea and practices arbitrary arrest. Alright, thanks for being honest.
      Dec 8
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      Nope. But keep lying.
      Dec 8
    • Uber Jduwgw
      Keep denying. Insults don’t win arguments.
      Dec 8
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      Do you have any idea how stupid you sound?
      Dec 8
    • Uber Jduwgw
      That is a good question for you. Apparently you have been reading too much of the vicious slander campaign against China in the media.
      Dec 8
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      Apparently you don't realize China is a corrupt and lawless dictatorship in which counterfeiting, theft of intellectual property, and fraud are tolerated and which sells banned tech to even worse nations like Iran.

      Thing that really gets you is that you know it's true. You can walk through those sentences and nod you head to each point and you just don't like to accept that.

      Corrupt? Yup. Xi's family went to town using his power to seize other people's wealth.

      Lawless? Yup. In China if you are a communist party princelings the law doesn't apply to you.

      Dictatorship? Yup and a brutal one that imposes draconian controls on the populace such as through the great firewall.

      Counterfeiting? You know you see it everywhere.

      Theft of IP? China's big firms are all based on it.

      Fraud? That's what Meng is arrested for.

      And even you defend selling banned tech to Iran which is really disturbing.
      Dec 8
    • Uber Jduwgw
      Listing eight lies doesn’t help your case. You are just repeating the slander that the media feeds you m. Do you even have the ability to think independently? You defend kidnapping, bullying, and aggression as long as it is committed by America. Iran has been a victim of American imperialism and terrorism since the 1950s and yet you still attack helping that nation. America uses its dominant position in the global economy to coerce other countries to bend to its will, eg criminalizing trade with Iran even when other countries reject those sanctions (eg EU). That must stop. But America has stooped to kidnapping. The fact that America makes up an excuse means nothing: unless you want to give credence to North Korean excuses in similar matters when Americans are arrested there.

      Finally, it is disturbing that you vehemently defend American bad behavior. Deep down you know that American dominance is in its twilight days and continues American misbehavior like this will have to be answered some day. It’s not even in America’s own interest to shoot itself in the foot like this.
      Dec 8
    • Amazon 🎁/🎁
      I didn't list any lies. You just don't like hearing the truth about China.

      What do you dispute?

      That there's a lot of counterfeit coming from China? That Xi is corrupt and used his power to enrich his family? That laws in China are not enforced against senior members of the party (unless they fall out with Xi)?

      Iran is subject to sanctions because it sponsors terrorists, specifically Hezbollah, and because it runs an illegal nuclear program.

      But go live there if you love it so much. Just don't piss off the Guardians or they will torture you to death.
      Dec 8
  • Amazon / EngQGqA17
    I don’t like huawei, they treat their employees like slaves.
    Dec 51
    • Microsoft SSS!
      I don't like Huawei, either. But that doesn't justify Trump administration's stupid move. It's just going to escalate the trade war.
      Dec 5
  • Microsoft SSS!
    America has always been double standard so she's probably going to be held as hostage for the trade negotiation. At the meantime, let's enjoy the stock market plunge and the profits we can make via the put options.
    Dec 50
  • VMware BobbleHat
    So basically op is pissed that the criminal will now face trial. Got it.
    Dec 62
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      Learned a lot from this analysis, must have researched carefully for such subtlety and nuance. Thanks for putting the time in for our benefit!
      Dec 6
    • VMware BobbleHat
      You’re welcome
      Dec 6
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    For readers who skip to the end, this settles the argument:

    “In this case, the other country in question is Canada, which has made its own sovereign decision to also sanction Iran.
    Extradition treaties, including the US-Canada one, require that the conduct involved be a crime in both jurisdictions. If the Canadian courts decide that what she did is not a crime under Canadian law, she will get off.”
    Dec 60
  • Uber HuaweiCFO
    OP
    Law is not whatever crap America makes up. In fact the American sanctions on Iran is criminal, null and void for non Americans
    Dec 64
    • You are wrong. US law is enforceable in the United States and in any country with an extradition treaty with the United States, which is all Western countries and quite a few non Western ones as well.

      Inside China these communist party princesses might be able to ignore the law but she set foot in a Western country and the law applies.

      I hope she gets a long prison sentence for her despicable crimes.
      Dec 6
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      You confuse right and wrong my friend. Nazi law was also enforceable in Nazi Germany and its allies. Doesn’t make it right.
      Dec 6
    • In this case the Nazi has been arrested
      Dec 6
    • New 0hedge
      Nazis terminated non aryans.

      Chinese elites terminate their own kind and put their own kind into slave labor.

      Cfo should be given to huawei factory workers who contemplated suicide due to inhumane working conditions and let them deal with her.
      Dec 8
  • New 0hedge
    No merit...pure communist party nepotism. Sure US used an excuse but no party is completely innocent......she is the pig in animal farm.....
    Dec 70
  • Microsoft jajakin
    I don’t understand why people keep saying US has evidence. If they have evidence, they would go against Huawei directly. They have no evidence, that’s why they are behaving like Mueller. They are trying to find some tiny misbehaving of related people and scare them with ridiculous long sentences to force them to corporate.
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    • VMware BobbleHat
      @jajakin’s way of thinking - ignore the dead body in the trunk. You can only give me a speeding ticket.
      7d
    • Microsoft Cddsvg
      No, they haven’t found the dead body, that’s why they talk about others crimes.
      7d
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      Totally agreed. US law process is just so so
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  • I don’t care what you guys are arguing about but I learned a ton about how different sides see the world. Beautiful! Don’t get mad at each other: remember this only a discussion.
    Dec 81
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      I just love eliciting quaint 1950s vocabulary.

      “The imperialist bandits have kidnapped an innocent Communist maiden! They shall pay for their impudent hooliganism!”
      Dec 8
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    小粉红已丧心病狂,无视skycom违反与惠普协议卖机子给伊朗的事实
    Dec 61
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      那你去告skycom啊?法治国家都是这么走程序的吗?
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    > Law is not whatever crap America makes up

    In America, and countries which have mutual extradition treaties to the U.S., the law is precisely whatever crap America makes up.

    Don’t hate the player, hate the Constitution of the United States of America 👨‍⚖️
    Dec 60
  • Google f@cebook
    Fully agree. If US thinks some company is violating their law then they should go through the appropriate legal route. Who gave them the permission to arrest some exec from their company?
    Dec 61
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