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Free Meng Wanzhou!

Uber HuaweiCFO
Dec 5, 2018

Canada arrests the CFO of Huawei and plans to extradite her to US on charges of violating American sanctions on trading with Iran. Does anyone see the multiple layers of injustice here? Imagine if Pakistan arrested the CFO of Google for doing business with Taiwan which violated Chinese sanctions against Taiwan. What a brazen violation of human rights and act of aggression. Yet some US politicians have the gall to call Chinese trading with Iran “aggression”. Whatever you think of Iran, this is an outrage. No nation has the right to force its will on another nation like this. American totalitarianism over the rest of the world needs to confrontés and stopped NOW!

No to US imperialism! No to violation of sovereignty! No to violation of human rights! Free Meng Wanzhou NOW!

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    • Microsoft SSS!
      US:

      - run Guantanamo Bay detention camps for Muslims
      - Invaded Afghanistan, Iraq, Lybia and Syria in past 10 years and caused massive casualty and waves of refugees
      - Fly drones in Pakistan and bombed civilians
      - Sell billions of $ of weapons to Saudi Islamist regime for their human rights violation.

      Let's see which one is more evil?
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      The Xinjiang issue has been propagandize just like that used against Iraq, Iran, Syria, Russia and other US enemies of the day. But even if we accept the Xinjiang situation as you described wholeheartedly, do you think China would be more justified or less justified if it started extraditing foreigners from third countries into those camps because they broke Chinese law? I for one would not think that is justified.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Looks like you don’t know that you just broke Chinese laws:

      1. Spread lies about Chinese policy towards Muslims.

      2. Spread more lies to help American aggression against Iran and commit more war crimes there

      According to your logic, China now has the right to extradite you to face criminal charges in China. See anything wrong with that?

      I’m afraid you are a bit confused about sanctions. No country has the right to force another country to follow its sanctions. Do you get that? Chinese do not have any legal obligation to implement American sanctions. Just like China can’t criminalize American flouting of Chinese arms trade restrictions against Taiwan or Iran can’t arrest Americans for violating Iranian sanctions against Israel.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Give me an example of where Iran arrests an American for what they did with another country in contravention of Iranian law. The fact that you can’t name an example for China does not justify your unfounded assertion that China would.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      USA has more people incarcerated than china even if you include the absurdly exaggerated Muslim camp figures with their normal inmates. In absolute terms, not per capita.

      And if you question our moral authority you’re a fucking communist
      Dec 6, 2018
    • VMware BobbleHat
      China just kills prisoners to keep the headcount low.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      I thought t hey were re-education camps? Wouldn’t they say death camp otherwise?
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Quantcast JDYl47
      Yo Google guy, there’s a tool called Google Search. It really helps using it before babbling the bullshit you do
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      Can u link pls? I must be using other thing bc the only thing I see are a bunch of BS articles based on an anonymously sourced interview conducted by UN officials. Is it an app?
      Dec 8, 2018
  • LinkedIn / Eng
    Gill Bates

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    Gill Batesmore
    That's the whole point of extradition treaties. If you commit a crime that one country feels is serious enough, they can get you arrested in another country with an extradition treaty then sent to face the charges against you.

    If you don't want to get caught by that, you have two options: either don't commit any crimes, or if you do, don't go to any countries with an extradition treaty that could get you to face the charges levied against you.

    Also, you still get a trial, so it's not as if it's go straight to prison, do not pass go, nor collect $200.
    Dec 5, 201810
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      Gill Bates

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      Makes sense.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Microsoft SSS!
      It doesn't make any sense. Iran sanction was lifted by Obama so Huawei traded with Iran. Then Trump imposed the arbitrary sanction against Iran and now accuses Huawei of the violation of sanction that didn't even exist at that time.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      Gill Bates

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      Do you have a source that says the sanctions were lifted?
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      So China has the right to extradite you for breaking Chinese law (which you may not even agree with) even though you aren’t Chinese, don’t live in China, and aren’t currently in China?

      What a person from country A does with country B outside the terroritory of country C does not “break” the law of country C because country C has no jurisdiction beyond its borders and citizenship. That is a basic concept of sovereignty.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Extradition treaties are not the point Equity. You are claiming that everyone on Earth has to follow the dictates of the American government. If that is not imperialism then I don’t know what is.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      Gill Bates

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      SSS, your link says that "President Barack Obama signed an executive order lifting some of the U.S. economic sanctions on Iran, the White House announced."

      Emphasis on some, not all. It's possible that the Huawei transactions still were not allowable under the remaining sanctions
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft SSS!
      All other EU countris are trying to bypass Trump's BS sanctions. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/25/eu-russia-and-china-join-forces-to-dodge-iran-sanctions.html
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Can’t believe some of you defend such despicable behavior by the us and Canadian governments. In Nazi germany you would say the Jews were breaking German law. This is pure abduction.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft Lhgomie
      Copy paste

      US authorities have been investigating Huawei since at least 2016 for allegedly shipping US-origin products to Iran and other countries in violation of US export and sanctions laws, sources told Reuters in April.

      Don't do the crime if you can't do the time!
      Dec 6, 2018
  • Microsoft Mr 🌏
    🍿
    Dec 5, 20180
  • Intuit Tshjx22
    I am Chinese, and I think Chinese like OP should gtfo and go back to China. If you hate the US so much why stay? There are many Chinese who live here and love the US. We all left China because the government is utter shit and human rights are really non-existence there. 不要一颗老鼠屎坏了一锅粥,好日子放着不过你就滚回国吧.
    Dec 6, 20185
    • Microsoft SSS!
      Typical Chinese Trumptard! We don't really care anything about Huawei and Chinese government in the US. But Trump's political stunt is going to hurt the US in trade negotiation and trade war escalation is going to cost the US as well.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Just because someone lives in a country doesn’t mean he or she has to agree with that country on everything. Chinese Americans don’t have to be a lapdog of America.

      I might add that Chinese Americans should take a cue from some of the other ethnic groups in this country who do make their voices heard and do defend their home countries (eg Israel, middle easterners, Europeans). That’s the model we should strive for.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Yahoo / Engtoughguy
      OP and SSS! keep saying ”we” just like communists' propaganda,what we are u talking about?
      Dec 6, 2018
    • VMware BobbleHat
      What are you talking about OP? Integrating into society is working exceptionally well for Chinese that do it. Folks that don’t, are the poor and destitute that hang on to the proud identity of the past.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft jajakin
      The problem is that you guys are arguing each other with exact mindset communist government give to you. Let’s have some hope for rule of law.
      Dec 8, 2018
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    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      The criminal US regime laid criminal sanctions on Iran and now forces other countries to commit its crimes. China can say NO!!!! Trump, American criminal government go to jail!
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      America has dropped to the level of bandits. They need to be called out for this.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Called for implementing illegal laws. Yes that’s right, laws are not ok just because a power to be created them. One can call out Chinese laws on censorship, American Civil Rights era laws on segregation, Nazi laws regarding the Jews. Just the same one can call out American laws that force foreigners to enact their sanctions regardless of whether they want to or not. As you might know, American sanctions on Iran are not internationally accepted, and not a few nations consider them very unjust to say the least.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Most countries in the world consider Iran to be a normal peaceful maligned by US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. Of course some other countries in the world get arm twisted into supporting those thee nations against Iran.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft jajakin
      They probably did what Trump did for his casino. Open a white glove company, and limit responsibility to the company. Huawei didn’t trade with Iran if Trump never broke. But unlike Trump, Huawei executives do not have the cultural perfection manipulating American law.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      By most countries, I’m including literally most countries including many members of the EU.

      Amazon: even if a country’s government sucks, it still has as much right as a country as any other. Democracy is great in my opinion, but it is an ideology out of many. Being a democracy does not give a country more or less right to treat other countries badly.
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      I think you might be confusing country with government. For example, a country has sovereignty regardless of what its government is.

      Your last paragraph though is pretty dangerous because it takes an ideology to the extreme. People in those countries might consider their governments to be legitimate representatives, and if their government don’t have as much right to represent their country as say the government of some other countries, aren’t you putting countries on an uneven playing field? That’s actually today’s version of the imperialist era’s white mans burden which was used to also justify inequality in international affairs.
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      That’s your belief and you are free to keep to it. Others think otherwise and may consider your opinion to be extremist. Oh well brainwashing works huh?
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      I like democracy too. I don’t think it gives a government or country more “rights” in any sense especially vis a vis non democratic countries. It’s a fundamental difference of opinion.

      Iran is a force for good in the Middle East. It has been maligned and attacked by some countries for decades, but that does not make it ok. (Check out the shoot down of an Iranian airliner in 1988 by US Navy, for which the shooter was rewarded). Lending a hand to Iran is a right and responsibility of all those who love justice.
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Thumbtack vUml64
      Stay in your dreams while CHN keep on improving.
      Dec 9, 2018
  • Microsoft SSS!
    For readers who are looking for the motivation behind the smoke show:

    Trump administration attempts to hold CFO of Huawei as hostage for trade negotiation. But the reckless move is not going to work and will probably backfire just like all other political stunts he did. The last thing we want to see is trade war escalation. The stock market has been crazy enough.
    Dec 6, 20183
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      Gill Bates

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      I'm fine with the trade war escalation TBQH. 🍿
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft SSS!
      What do you have anything to gain from the trade war?
      Dec 6, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      Gill Bates

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      Nothing to gain or lose from the trade war in the short term. If anything, it might just deflate some of the overpriced stocks, so it could be a good opportunity to buy.

      Today's trade war related stock price fluctuations are completely irrelevant to the long term performance of the stock market (on a time horizon longer than 20 years).

      What's not irrelevant to the long term performance of the US stock market is the rampant IP theft by Chinese companies, and if the trade war manages puts a damper on that, I'm all for it.
      Dec 6, 2018
  • https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/25/us/politics/china-exit-ban.html

    China did this first by not letting American citizens leave China to lure their dad back in the country.
    Dec 5, 20182
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      That might not be right but at least China did not put the children in jail or charge them with any crime. It simply prevents them from leaving China, which may be bad, but explicitly said the kids were innocent.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Google Oces12
      Chinese governments argument was that since they used Chinese national IDs while in China, they are Chinese nationals. Not saying I buy this argument, just offering a different perspective. US media don't tell is everything
      Dec 5, 2018
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    • Microsoft SSS!
      It's better than how American police just directly shot and killed innocent unarmed black people, which far outnumbered human rights activists detained by Chinese police. Let's stay on-message with CNN.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Microsoft SSS!
      250 human rights lawyer crackdown, which doesn't lead to any death, in a nation of 1.3 billion people compared with 40 KILLINGS of innocent citizens in a nation of 330 million people. You do the math and tell me which one is worse.

      In addition to domestic killings, US military has caused massive casualty and waves of refugees in the middle East. China hasn't bombed any foreign country in the past 10 years at least.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Microsoft SSS!
      Lol, blame opioid crisis on China! You should retake your liberal arts courses in college. According to your logic, you should blame car accidents caused by DUI on car manufacturers in Japan and Germany. What's next? Blame obesity on China because some sugar and sweetener are made in China? Hahaha

      Both China and US are far from perfect and we can list 100+ problems in both countries. But it looks you MAGA just can't lose face for Trump and keep defending Trump administration's reckless move that's drawing the country into a death spiral.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Equity’s arguments here are very typical of what comes straight off the American media which says only some things and not others. If you watch media from a country not towing the American line you will find plenty of events that you simply don’t hear about in America.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft SSS!
      What does England have anything to do with America's opioid crisis? Typical Trumptard logic!

      China is far from perfect but Trump's reckless political stunt is going to backfire and make it much harder for other countries to trust the US in the future.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Microsoft SSS!
      Look up the definition of genocide. There is no killing in Xinjiang while US military has killed thousands of innocent civilians in Middle East. You shameless motherfucker hypocrite tells me which one is fucking genocide!
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Thumbtack HahaTT
      Proof please. Use facts not your mouth
      Dec 9, 2018
    • Thumbtack HahaTT
      Great, I see two polices walking casually in a peaceful street, thanks for the fact
      Dec 9, 2018
    • Thumbtack HahaTT
      I only trust what we can see and scientifically systematically proved. Oftentimes political opinions favor the louder side, not necessarily the wiser side or right side, so not trustworthy to me. Just like you. No matter how much BS you said, I don’t see any real points in it. Bye
      Dec 9, 2018
    • Thumbtack HahaTT
      lol bye
      Dec 9, 2018
  • Apple NP Hard
    TC?

    Please don’t provide TC for Meng!
    Dec 5, 20180
  • Uber HuaweiCFO
    OP
    America is interfering in China’s legitimate economic activities. It is trying to destroy China just like it had destroyed countless other countries. Remember the lies about Iraq? Here we go again with slander against China. The propaganda drones are here on Blind spewing their venom.
    Dec 6, 20185
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      These past two years I’ve come to realize Americans are the most brainwashed people on the planet (I’m American). Even if a lot of the comments are bots/propaganda shills, the broader public will blindly adopt the narrative. It’s fucked up.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Who’s a state sponsor of terrorism? Who invaded and who defends? These terms are only used to defame or praise.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      I’m glad we Americans have never intentionally or unintentionally funded/armed terrorist organizations, much less trade with them.*

      *excludes the past century
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      China has every right to sell to Iran, its a great country which needs help against its enemies and happens to be beneficial to China too. Other countries have the right to keep out of Chinese-Iranian relations and mind their business.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      George W Bush University
      Dec 7, 2018
  • Uber HuaweiCFO
    OP
    Two wrongs don’t make a right Equity. China has internal improvements to make but that has no bearing on whether other countries can abuse China.
    Dec 5, 20182
    • Uber Metaphor
      If you like being a dog in Huawei, just leave...
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Sad my fellow Uberite. Can’t find a hole in my argument so you make an irrelevant insult?
      Dec 6, 2018
  • New 0hedge
    Time for the cfo to go to reducation camp and receive liberal brainwashing to turn her into full SJW. Once thats complete unleash her back to china and watch communists fight over bathroom laws.
    Dec 7, 20181
    • This hilarious. Not commenting on the content, but the humor is A+
      Dec 8, 2018
  • New 0hedge
    Before xi there was Bo Xilai. His wife murdered british citzen who had helped his "playboy prince" get into exclusuve schools. Oh and his police chief ran to US embassy for fear of his life for knowing too much including how they made money by selling prisoners organs.

    Trump is nothing compared to chinese communists.

    And and what goes on in re-education camps?

    How many comedians can make fun of Xi in China the way americans do with all of US presidents.
    Dec 8, 20181
    • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
      For crying our loud, they banned the Winnie the Pooh movie!
      Dec 9, 2018
  • Microsoft SSS!
    America has always been double standard so she's probably going to be held as hostage for the trade negotiation. At the meantime, let's enjoy the stock market plunge and the profits we can make via the put options.
    Dec 5, 20181
    • Autodesk / EngVjvcjko
      Dude when things get worse,no amount of money can save your ass🤦‍♀️, no one really wins here
      Jan 9
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    Spotted the Chinese shill.
    Dec 6, 20180
  • VMware BobbleHat
    So basically op is pissed that the criminal will now face trial. Got it.
    Dec 6, 20182
    • Google IiiilLiiii
      Learned a lot from this analysis, must have researched carefully for such subtlety and nuance. Thanks for putting the time in for our benefit!
      Dec 6, 2018
    • VMware BobbleHat
      You’re welcome
      Dec 6, 2018
  • Amazon / EngQGqA17
    I don’t like huawei, they treat their employees like slaves.
    Dec 5, 20181
    • Microsoft SSS!
      I don't like Huawei, either. But that doesn't justify Trump administration's stupid move. It's just going to escalate the trade war.
      Dec 5, 2018
  • Microsoft tard
    You are a fucktard
    Dec 7, 201811
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Haha, by your logic I have now seen how brainwashed you are. It goes both ways see?
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Microsoft tard
      And yet you are speaking English
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      You folks should open your minds and realize that people legitimately have very different opinions from you. It is not the same as agreeing with me, just realize the legitimacy of very different opinions.
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      American government is neither legitimate nor ethical. It doesn’t have any rights. Other countries tolerate it. That’s all.

      See what I did there?
      Dec 7, 2018
    • New 0hedge
      China got rich enslaving their own populace, iran just got lucky with oil deposites, US jealous of diligent and nonPC noBS societies winning, russians are thugs, norrh koreans are thugs, japanese work their workers to death, european royal families living off of colonial past glories, africans cant innovate, lazy arabs just milking the oil, indians still stuck in 3rd world with caste system.....did I miss anyone?
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      I’ll make one last attempt to reason with you. Such absolute ideas like democratic governments are legit but non democratic are not are not ideas to be proud of. You can be a firm advocate of democracy without taking it that far. Think about Islamic fundamentalists. They have some great things too, but if they take it to say only Islamic governments are legit, well that is going too far. Or take communist/socialist movements of the early twentieth century. That grew out of a noble effort to improve the lives of workers. It was genuinely popular and shared many characteristics with dogmatic democracy. But when communists adopted the line that only proletarian governments are legit and bourgeois regimes are bad, well that was extreme. Do you see what I’m saying? Again, not asking you to agree, but I want to make sure that my point across.
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Extremists of all stripes are similar
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Currently a democracy is the most militaristic nation in the world. How moderate
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Let’s look at the number of countries Russia and US are

      Invading
      Have soldiers fighting
      Have military bases
      Threatens military action against
      Military budget
      Dec 7, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Amazon: Russia fights to defend its terroritory whereas the US fights to bend other countries to its will. And the US fights way more than Russia. Russian military spending is both a smaller portion of its gdp than US and it is absolutely smaller. There is no point in debating when you refuse to recognize basic facts. That is what sets extremists apart from moderates.
      Dec 7, 2018
  • Uber HuaweiCFO
    OP
    Does anyone see a problem with America coercing third countries to serve as their accomplice in bullying Iran?

    Some people might see a parallel with what China does vis a vis Taiwan, but how outraged do you think people would be if China arrested non Taiwanese for selling arms to Taiwan?
    Dec 5, 20185
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      You dodged my question because you realized that what America did here is heinous and indefensible. Instead, your comment is further unjustified insinuation against China. It also betrays your belief in might is right. Not just my friend.
      Dec 5, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Wow Equity you failed to address any of my logic so you side step it, attack my intelligence, and finally make serious attacks against Iran and China governments. Guess what, Iran’s government thinks America’s government is a great satan, and lots of people find the governments of China and Iran perfectly legitimate so your arguments about what is the greater good needs a whole lot more support.

      China extradites people for breaking Chinese law within Chinas jurisdiction, unlike in this case with Meng.

      Insulting the thinking skills of your rival when you can’t address their points is a logical fallacy and I do recall that it is a favored tactic of the American government.

      My loyalties are none of your business.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      Saying a lie a thousand times does not make it true even when the CIA manual says so

      You have still not addressed my logic but continue to insult me.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      I pity you Equity. It’s not your fault, its the environment that you lived in which prevents you seeing facts and reasoning that contradicts what you have been told. Just don’t let yourself become their cannon fodder.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      You mean the country that practices more militarism than any other in modern history, continues to have military action in too many countries to count, maintains military bases in a lot of countries, assassinates people around the world in the name of anti terrorism and national security, bullies countries and entities around the world to serve American interest. While China has its problems, at least it is a lot nicer to other countries.
      Dec 7, 2018
  • Microsoft azure365
    If you violate American laws, don’t go to America or countries that have treaties with America.
    Dec 8, 20186
    • Uber Jduwgw
      Say that to the Americans that North Korea or Iran arrests
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Microsoft azure365
      At least you won’t die of brain damage in the US
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Uber Jduwgw
      You finally admit that the US is a rogue nation on the same level as North Korea and practices arbitrary arrest. Alright, thanks for being honest.
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Uber Jduwgw
      Keep denying. Insults don’t win arguments.
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Uber Jduwgw
      That is a good question for you. Apparently you have been reading too much of the vicious slander campaign against China in the media.
      Dec 8, 2018
    • Uber Jduwgw
      Listing eight lies doesn’t help your case. You are just repeating the slander that the media feeds you m. Do you even have the ability to think independently? You defend kidnapping, bullying, and aggression as long as it is committed by America. Iran has been a victim of American imperialism and terrorism since the 1950s and yet you still attack helping that nation. America uses its dominant position in the global economy to coerce other countries to bend to its will, eg criminalizing trade with Iran even when other countries reject those sanctions (eg EU). That must stop. But America has stooped to kidnapping. The fact that America makes up an excuse means nothing: unless you want to give credence to North Korean excuses in similar matters when Americans are arrested there.

      Finally, it is disturbing that you vehemently defend American bad behavior. Deep down you know that American dominance is in its twilight days and continues American misbehavior like this will have to be answered some day. It’s not even in America’s own interest to shoot itself in the foot like this.
      Dec 8, 2018
  • New 0hedge
    No merit...pure communist party nepotism. Sure US used an excuse but no party is completely innocent......she is the pig in animal farm.....
    Dec 7, 20180
  • Broadcom Ltd. eJAg37
    The crime was to LIE to a bank to seek funds routed thru US to violate US sanctions on Iran. Please understand the difference.
    Dec 19, 20189
    • Microsoft Cddsvg
      executives from the western banks who actually managed these funds had never been treated like this.
      Dec 19, 2018
    • Microsoft Cddsvg
      If having false information in a paper they happened to sign is so serious, 50% of American executives should be arrested if not 100%. Have you got every number on your tax returns right? Do you expect the US government would detain you some day?
      Dec 19, 2018
    • VMware BobbleHat
      Is this a joke? Are you suggesting that tax fraud is not a serious crime? You go straight to prison for Fing around in that.

      A little history for the little mind - the feds took down the Italian mafia by convicting them of not paying tax on their illegal profits. It was too hard to prove that their activities were illegal.

      You are 100% accountable for everything you sign. That is what a signature is.
      Dec 19, 2018
    • Microsoft Cddsvg
      that’s interesting because a foreign executive in your mind is better to be compared with mafia than American executives. Didn’t Elon Musk lie to its investors? Was he arrested?
      Dec 19, 2018
    • VMware BobbleHat
      A crime is a crime, it doesn’t matter who did it.
      Dec 19, 2018
    • VMware BobbleHat
      And yes, if Elon didn’t settle with the sec he would be arrested and his case go to trial, assuming you are talking about his tweet.
      Dec 19, 2018
    • Microsoft Cddsvg
      The reality is if you have some numbers incorrect, they call you to help you correct your tax return, you are likely to be fined. You call that a fraud because it satisfy you, not because it is true.
      Dec 19, 2018
    • Microsoft Cddsvg
      Elon musk won’t go to jail, just like Donald Trump was never broke. They are good at manipulating American law. A foreigner isn’t as talented as they are. People defend this lady not because they love her so much, but the conditional political execution of law is so scary to them.
      Dec 19, 2018
    • VMware BobbleHat
      Intentionally misleading is different than accidentally adding number wrong. If you intentionally add number wrong, it is fraud and you go to prison.

      Intent is defined in law and you should learn about it before pretending to be wiser than the the hundreds of thousands of lawyers that carefully and objectively defined what is illegal over the past two centuries.
      Dec 20, 2018
  • Microsoft jajakin
    I don’t understand why people keep saying US has evidence. If they have evidence, they would go against Huawei directly. They have no evidence, that’s why they are behaving like Mueller. They are trying to find some tiny misbehaving of related people and scare them with ridiculous long sentences to force them to corporate.
    Dec 11, 20183
    • VMware BobbleHat
      @jajakin’s way of thinking - ignore the dead body in the trunk. You can only give me a speeding ticket.
      Dec 11, 2018
    • Microsoft Cddsvg
      No, they haven’t found the dead body, that’s why they talk about others crimes.
      Dec 11, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      bigapple33

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      bigapple33more
      Totally agreed. US law process is just so so
      Dec 14, 2018
  • Yahoo / Engtoughguy
    小粉红已丧心病狂,无视skycom违反与惠普协议卖机子给伊朗的事实
    Dec 6, 20181
    • Google / Eng
      bigapple33

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      bigapple33more
      那你去告skycom啊?法治国家都是这么走程序的吗?
      Dec 14, 2018
  • I don’t care what you guys are arguing about but I learned a ton about how different sides see the world. Beautiful! Don’t get mad at each other: remember this only a discussion.
    Dec 8, 20180
  • Google f@cebook
    Fully agree. If US thinks some company is violating their law then they should go through the appropriate legal route. Who gave them the permission to arrest some exec from their company?
    Dec 6, 20180
  • Uber HuaweiCFO
    OP
    Law is not whatever crap America makes up. In fact the American sanctions on Iran is criminal, null and void for non Americans
    Dec 6, 20182
    • Uber HuaweiCFO
      OP
      You confuse right and wrong my friend. Nazi law was also enforceable in Nazi Germany and its allies. Doesn’t make it right.
      Dec 6, 2018
    • New 0hedge
      Nazis terminated non aryans.

      Chinese elites terminate their own kind and put their own kind into slave labor.

      Cfo should be given to huawei factory workers who contemplated suicide due to inhumane working conditions and let them deal with her.
      Dec 8, 2018
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    Dec 5, 20181

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