Getting rejected left and right

Amazon Inquiring
Jul 31, 2018 36 Comments

So I’ve been at amazon for 7 years and promoted a few times. Received TT and have been a PM for some of the top core Alexa devices/features. So I have been thinking about a change just to see what’s out there. I’ve applied to dozens of roles with Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Snap, and Hulu.
Hulu gave me a call and said I wasn’t quite the fit they needed, which made sense after the recruiter gave me the call. Other than that it’s been miserable the past 2 months. Just getting auto responders from all the companies. I used to get interviews no problem but it seems like there’s a rut right now in Seattle or something.

A recruiter friend told me that it’s been something a lot of candidates are complaining about this quarter but I’m starting to wonder if somethings wrong with my resume.

What do recruiters like to see on a PM resume that would generate a phone reach out?

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TOP 36 Comments
  • New / Other WNJC85
    Everyone wants young meat. The older you get the less demanding you are in the tech world.
    Jul 31, 2018 10
    • Amazon Inquiring
      OP
      I’m not really touting my 7 years as company loyalty. Not sure where you got that. Just owning a series of highly successful amazon product launches start to finish is generally seen as positive.

      I’ve never seen a PM with an online portfolio though. Do you have an example?
      Jul 31, 2018
    • Visa و
      BUWs74 - what a 💩 show! They give u the PTOs to keep you off the grid! You have to start calling back those recruiters in case they got to you by mistake!
      Jul 31, 2018
    • Tango Health / Eng WaterColor
      Whats an online portfolio and for a PM??
      Jul 31, 2018
    • New / Other WNJC85
      Damn grandpa is being rough
      Jul 31, 2018
    • New / Mgmt BUWs74
      Ha! Keep me off the grid?! I wish! I’ve got my fingers in so many projects, it’s rather insane. I’m actually very busy and on the “grid” but thanks for the vote of confidence. As for the PM role, in a world of agile I think you may want to consider finding a mother job. Unless, you can make the jump to PO. Good luck, I have to change my Depends. Ha! 🤘😀😀😀
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Facebook public
    Broaden your net. You are applying only to reach schools.
    Jul 31, 2018 7
    • Amazon Inquiring
      OP
      You are applying only to reach schools is a nonsensical statement. That’s the issue. Your follow up makes sense I suppose but there’s not much else in the PNW that has decent pay scale.
      Jul 31, 2018
    • Amazon Kxqy63
      What kind of PM are you? CS background?
      Jul 31, 2018
    • Facebook public
      Sure it does assuming you attended college. Surely you didn't only apply to stanford snd harvard even if you attended one of them.
      Jul 31, 2018
    • eBay xQ3s2za
      "reach schools" means "schools out of reach" like MIT, Stanford... Must be a recent grad using school terminology out of context.

      Honestly I'm surprised all the big names aren't calling you back, you worked on many cutting edge products. If you shared more about your situation we could help more.
      Jul 31, 2018
    • Marvell 67hj
      Thanks eBay for translating.

      It’s hard for us to troubleshoot for you unless we see your resume. Maybe it’s your resume that’s not hitting the right notes.
      Jul 31, 2018
  • Amazon bxm
    Getting hired at principal level is tough, don't compare it to you joining as a fresher. Companies are generally very careful and scared while hiring someone at principal level. A single bad hire at principal could break an org. With that being said, this doesn't mean there is or might be wrong with you, just that it takes some time getting hired at that role. Keep hustling. ✌️
    Aug 5, 2018 1
    • Amazon Inquiring
      OP
      That’s good to hear. At senior level I had a lot of bites but principal it’s been tough. I’m looking into whether somethings wrong with my resume. I’m not comfortable sharing it with people on blind (breaking anonymity) but will share with some mentors to see what might be done.
      Aug 5, 2018
  • Marvell 67hj
    PM’s are a dime a dozen honestly.
    Jul 31, 2018 1
    • Amazon Inquiring
      OP
      Why so many openings then? There are a metric ton of PM openings across major companies.
      Aug 1, 2018
  • NetApp OfWq48
    Dude, it has only been two months. Chill.
    Jul 31, 2018 1
    • Amazon Inquiring
      OP
      Is two months really not unusual? Back when I got the job at Amazon, I had competing offers. I assumed during our boom time that it would be similar now.
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Amazon Fssfyjj245
    Depends on what kind of work you have done. Have you done significant tech work/UI or Product marketing? These days even a project manager or program manager is called product manager at Amazon. So it really depends on the variety of launches you have done. Good luck in your search!
    Jul 31, 2018 1
    • Amazon Kxqy63
      Strongly agreed. We have the most MBA PMs but few both have the tech strengths and can articulate the problems and roadmaps very well. Soft skills are critical, but after all, they are soft skills.
      Jul 31, 2018
  • Amazon Gewgle?
    You should lean on your network and get referrals
    Jul 31, 2018 1
    • Amazon Inquiring
      OP
      I have referrals for every one except snap.
      Jul 31, 2018
  • Amazon F3646
    Why leave Amazon? Look for internal transfer. Another reason could be amazon has hired too many PMs over last 3 years and they are floating around for new gigs so there is market concentration of PMs with more choice/options to the employer. #employers market
    Aug 2, 2018 1
    • Amazon Inquiring
      OP
      Maybe, but again, the positions aren’t getting filled. They just sit open. It’s very strange.
      Aug 2, 2018
  • New / Design
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    Would you consider joining s startup as a CPO or head of product?
    Sep 17 0
  • Indeed / Other CDwY37
    OP any conclusions? Curious to learn from your experience as I’ll be probably in a similar position soon
    Mar 2 0
  • Amazon Covex
    I think the market for PMs is saturated. I know a few awesome, experienced PMs that are looking for work in Seattle. Amazon, under my SVP at least, is also trying to reduce the ratio of PMs to dev/science.
    Jul 31, 2018 0
  • Dialpad aEKu20
    Sounds weird. No recruiter ever reach out to you?
    Jul 31, 2018 0
  • Tango Health / Eng WaterColor
    OP, do you want you resume to be reviewed? Feel free to DM me.
    Jul 31, 2018 0

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