GitHub vs Facebook vs Google

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Jan 3 24 Comments

I have two offers pending, all EM positions. Right now I remote from a low CoL area. The city is also close to where my parents and my wife's parents live.

With my current TC, I can live very comfortably and no daily commute.

On the other side, having G/F EM on my resume would benefit me in the long run.

How would you choose? (I plan to work another 12-15 years before retirement.)

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  • New / R&D zorkan
    Google MTV makes worst sense financially, you will get taxed up the ass and end up making significantly less than you would in Seattle or remote. WA doesn't have state income tax, and the CoL/QoL is better. FB Seattle also offers free Uber credits to and from campus, catered meals, ect.. So you save there.

    I'd say,
    FB if trying to maximize wealth.
    Github if trying to maximize health.
    Google if trying to maximize ego + regret.
    Jan 3 1
  • Shopify / Eng 38d
    Would do Google for the exposure and come back to GitHub with higher TC maybe? 300k remote is awesome. Can I ask where you were living with GH made you an offer? From what I understand comp is normalized to where you are living no?
    Jan 3 3
    • Stripe / Eng su4178
      Sometimes they are normalized to tiers. I have seen the following:
      Tier 1: NYC, SF
      Tier 2: Seattle, LA, San Diego
      Tier 3: Austin, Atlanta, Chicago, London
      Tier 4: everywhere else

      And they will just index tiers into those. Tier 4 might be indexed to say Portland, but you live in Bumfuckshitsville, IN like a king.
      Jan 3
    • Shopify / Eng 38d
      That’s infinitely better if that’s the case. While you’re here, how’s Stripe on remote these days? I noticed that they started pulling back on remote openings the last year?
      Jan 3
    • Stripe / Eng su4178
      Yeah it’s a little confusing internally as well. My understanding of the new policy is they will only allow someone be remote (as a new hire or otherwise) if they have previous experience working remote elsewhere.
      Jan 3
  • Facebook e4.
    Why you don't take that fb offer is beyond me...
    Jan 3 2
    • eBay winzip32
      Because you can make more or the same elsewhere? Not everyone cares for the business fb is in.
      Jan 3
    • Apple / Eng Apple Park
      Because it’s the Silicon Valley shithole. $300K to live where the fuck you want and work remotely is pretty awesome.

      Go to rural Nebraska and buy hookers and blow, and lots of ‘em.
      Jan 3
  • Facebook
    Instagrаm

    Facebook

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    Instagrаmmore
    Holy shit, your FB comp in Seattle is like 600k in Bay Area. Given the current stock price, it can 1.5x soon. Of course, 300k remote may allow you to live in a poor country like a king, but not sure you want to live there for a long time. I’d pick that enormous comp in Seattle and traveled the world on vacation, retired earlier and lived like a king till the rest of my life.
    Jan 3 2
    • Pinterest Jon snow ❄
      Bear markets generally last 20 months. I’d not have such high hopes 1.5x soon
      Jan 3
    • Facebook
      Instagrаm

      Facebook

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      Instagrаmmore
      Right, OP is gonna get his first vesting and refreshers cheap, then it’ll accrue and grow.
      Jan 3
  • Microsoft / Eng Tier 1
    300k remote is amazing.

    Use this to negotiate more from google?
    Jan 3 0
  • New mnllwFb
    300k remote is really good. Plus you save at least an hour of commute time daily. That is five hours a week you can use for workouts.
    Jan 3 0
  • Drive.ai twatter
    300k remote sounds like a better deal financially. Moving for an EM position might make sense, but it seems that you have plenty of room for negotiating.
    Jan 3 0
  • Facebook / Product
    macacos

    Facebook Product

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    Facebook
    macacosmore
    What do ‘long-run benefits ‘ mean to you? 12-15 yrs from retirement doesn’t seem like long run. And how would the roles at F/G help those goals? Brand in resume alone wont do much IMO. Staying in your location sounds best to me, you will give up a ton by moving to MV or SEA (nearby family, friends, places, lifestyle) for illusory benefits. I would think harder whatd wanna do by t-5 yrs and during retirement.
    Jan 3 0
  • Google keeps packing new-hire sardines into the mountain view and sunnyvale tin cans. If you care about home ownership and wl balance, forget Google because the pay is shit compared to the cost of living (200 sq ft of housing in take home pay every year on $435k salary ...). They have a whole internal newsgroup about "why can't I afford a house with $200k tco why am I a renter?," and we have to explain that silicon valley doesn't accept us dollars for houses; only stock options work for buying houses in silicon valley ....
    Jan 4 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Cacadoodoo
    300k remote is where it’s at
    Jan 3 0
  • Gusto 104702759
    How many YOE?
    Jan 3 0
  • eBay winzip32
    Is it hard to do your current role effectively while being remote? I haven’t seen too many remote EMs. What would your take home be after expenses and taxes, rent, etc if you move to Seattle or Mtv?
    Jan 3 0
  • New / Eng
    donkeycs

    New Eng

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    donkeycsmore
    remote for sure, plus github is still cool as a company
    Jan 3 0
  • Apple / Eng Apple Park
    Live like a king!
    Jan 3 0
  • Square / Eng Qdtc23
    Largely depend on your career goals.
    Jan 3 0
  • Uber hUd76p
    Do you like being remote? G in particular is not remote-friendly.
    Jan 3 0