Going on paternity half way through PiP

New Vlus78
Mar 31 24 Comments

3 months Performer improvement plan.

Can I take my full paternity half way through the PiP? I don't plan to come back, but my yearly bonus is due during this time.

My company offers generous 6 months paternity. Can I get fired while on paternity since I did not complete PiP?

Tagging some of the companies who give pip excessively to get any guidance here.


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TOP 24 Comments
  • Microsoft Zzzzzzzzy
    Paternity makes it hard for a company to fire you immediately. I don't think a manager has any say of whether or when you can take paternity leave. Talk to your hr..
    Mar 31 2
    • New Vlus78
      I don't trust my HR. They may expedite it somehow.
      Mar 31
    • Fitbit ghnc
      HR generally would not risk firing somebody that’s going on paternity leave as it can open the company up to lawsuits.
      Apr 8
  • Apple cooktim
    If you are eligible for paternity leave, take it ASAP and don’t come back. They can not deny you that.
    Mar 31 0
  • Take it ASAP.
    Mar 31 0
  • Yahoo GrIt88
    I'm not a lawyer, but I would think you could sue if they fire you while on paternity leave. Did you enter into any agreement or contract with the company when you started the pip?
    Mar 31 0
  • Amazon / Mgmt baluga
    You are expecting bonus when on pip?
    Mar 31 1
    • New / Consultant

      New Consultant

      Google, Techstars, Mozilla
      I'm me.
      I was expecting a bonus while on a PiP. Changed managers at the turn of the quarter. Old manager who was promoted gave me "exceeded expectations" on my review. New manager had me on a PiP 2 weeks in that ended the day before bonus payouts. Ended up never getting that bonus but I did get a severance that was much higher. *shrug*
      Apr 16
  • Amazon sprung
    If it's FMLA you are talking about and you have legitimate grounds (birth certificate for your child is pretty hard evidence) I think it's incredibly illegal for them to say no. You might want to check with an employment lawyer to verify that statement, but my understanding is that you're untouchable when on FMLA.

    However the legal period of time covered may be less than the generous benefit your company offers, I think it's 12 weeks not 6 months. So check with a lawyer.
    Mar 31 1
    • FactSet rkld
      Paternity is not same as FMLA. Paternity is a benefit, FMLA is law.
      Apr 21
  • Salesforce MayGetPip
    I think paternity is on the approval of your manager.. He can’t say no.. but may warn you of the implications indirectly.
    Mar 31 1
    • New Vlus78
      Does it mean, my manager can deny my paternity and instead ask me to finish my PiP?

      I want to get that yearly bonus and if I am fired for not completing PiP then I will loose it.
      Mar 31
  • BlackRock xis
    If you believe you are smart to think you can stay till you receive bonus, but you will not get it.
    I have seen with a few people individual firing is always before bonus.
    Apr 1 0
  • Netflix enjoylyfe
    Netflix doesn't have PIP. If you feel your job is under duress, take your parental leave NOW.
    Mar 31 0
  • Amazon thfsdg
    Paternity leave pauses your RSU, if that's why you want to go on a leave
    Mar 31 5
    • Facebook FfEV64
      Vesting does not stop at FB when one is on parental leave. Not sure if that changes from company to company.
      Mar 31
    • Amazon thfsdg
      Good for you, it pauses in Amazon 😣😣
      Mar 31
    • New Vlus78
      It doesn't in my company. Keeping my fingers crossed on not getting fired before then.
      Mar 31
    • LinkedIn sacra
      Amazon are u sure ? I ve never heard leave pausing rsu vesting.
      Mar 31
    • Amazon thfsdg
      It does for dads, I checked a few weeks ago
      Mar 31
  • NCR Corporation bmrn03
    Use your paternity leave to study and start looking for new job. But yes, take those leaves asap.
    Apr 17 0
  • Capital One Richass
    Take it they will pause pip. Talk to hr
    Apr 1 0
  • New / Mgmt VSwf01
    What company do you work for?
    Apr 1 0
  • Instacart Carrottr0n
    Different from company to company
    Mar 31 0