Goog L5 to Apple ICT5

Google jobswoz
Jun 9, 2018 39 Comments

Is it possible? What is the expected comp?

Swe generalist. Current TC only 320k.

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TOP 39 Comments
  • Amazon gjgjgj
    Lol at only
    Jun 9, 2018 2
    • Two Sigma kruber
      Welcome to Blind!
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Google jobswoz
      OP
      It's bay area!
      Jun 10, 2018
  • Apple / Eng NexTime
    Only 320k? Bernie Sanders is rolling over in his grave right now.
    Jun 9, 2018 3
    • He's still alive
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Quora thebumble
      ^ He's
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Thanks for spelling correction
      Jun 9, 2018
  • Did I read only! WTF!! YoE?
    Jun 9, 2018 2
    • Google jobswoz
      OP
      PhD+4yr@g. Started lowball taking forever to catch up.
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Can't you have a comp conversation with your manager? Tell them your concern.
      Jun 9, 2018
  • Facebook eyVl43
    Ex apple, getting IC4 to begin with is extremely hard. Try upper range of IC4
    Jun 9, 2018 8
    • Facebook eyVl43
      The culture, perk, quality of people and salary is all all low
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      We have an ESPP. Neither fb nor G has it
      Jun 10, 2018
    • Facebook eyVl43
      They pay enough to cover that
      Jun 10, 2018
    • Google Vsondrhgre
      Dividend on RSU?
      Jun 10, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      eyVI43 is right tho, fb and google pay more than enough to cover the dividend equivalents at Apple too
      Jun 10, 2018
  • Apple Gg56fh
    Why leave Google for Apple? Curious.
    Jun 9, 2018 3
    • Google jobswoz
      OP
      Get more pay and higher refresh.
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Google / Eng
      GCoin

      Google Eng

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      GCoinmore
      Ict5 is very very hard to get
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      Ull get more pay and higher refresh at fb. Not at apple
      Jun 10, 2018
  • Apple / Eng APTalk
    It's extremely rare for folks to be hired in as an ICT5. Unless your PhD is in machine learning or data science I'd have a hard time seeing this happen.
    Jun 9, 2018 3
    • Microsoft TAPAKAH
      Is it easy to get promoted from ICT4?
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Apple / Eng APTalk
      Unfortunately not that common either. Maybe 3 engineers in my org of ~30 are ICT5.
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Apple fezzik
      I was hired as an ICT5 w/o either of those things. But had much more experience than OP.
      Jun 10, 2018
  • Apple John!
    ICT4 at Apple make $380k for the good performers. So you could come in as ICT4 with a high base and make more than google. But would take 2 years to get there for the refreshers to stack
    Jun 9, 2018 2
    • Microsoft TAPAKAH
      You mean 380 is a base plus on-hire RSU plus two refreshers (all RSUs are per year). Correct?
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Apple John!
      Yes plus annual bonus
      Jun 9, 2018
  • Apple JohnConner
    Google 5 is Apple 4 according to levels.fyi
    Jun 9, 2018 2
    • Google jobswoz
      OP
      Thus this question
      Jun 9, 2018
    • Apple / Eng cho Chang
      This is incorrect. A google L5 with 14 YOE got ICT5 at apple
      Jun 10, 2018
  • Nvidia DxoU46
    L5 maps to ict4 for most of the cases. 320K TC also in the right range for ICT4. ICT5 you are asking nearly 450+TC, which is more like L6 in Google range. Note that I am talking about initial offer without stock appreciations after a couple of years.
    Jun 12, 2018 1
    • Apple Gg56fh
      450k+ for an ICT5 after two years? What kind of refresher grants are expected for a high performing ICT5?
      Jun 13, 2018
  • Microsoft Containerd
    How many years does it take to go from 4 to 5 at Apple?
    Jun 9, 2018 1
    • Google / Eng
      GCoin

      Google Eng

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      GCoinmore
      No deadline. Might never happen for lots of folks.
      Jun 9, 2018
  • Apple JohnConner
    Apple 4 TC can be high with refreshers after 1-2 years
    Jun 9, 2018 1
    • Google jobswoz
      OP
      What's high-end TC?
      Jun 9, 2018