Google Hiring Committee Do Over

New sm1001
Jul 7 26 Comments

I just went through Google hiring committee for SWE (assuming L4) and I was told beforehand that I had 3 strong hire interviews and 2 hires (not sure if weak hire is the correct term). I guess that the hiring manager for the team that selected me wrote a recommendation letter for me also. The recruiter said that everyone wanted to hire me at HC except for 1 person and that someone higher up opted to send me to another HC for a do over instead of having me go through additional interviews. Has anyone ever heard of anything like this? I'm sure it's not the case, but I'm jokingly hoping that they're already set to send me an offer and that this is a trick to make me more susceptible to accepting whatever offer they send me without negotiating :). Also, for background, I have 4.5 YOE and a M.S. in C.S. with a specialization in Machine Learning from a top 10 C.S. school. B.S. was in C.S. also.

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  • New sm1001
    OP
    Update: I found out that the 1 hold out on my first hiring committee didn't have a problem with my performance. They thought that my interview questions weren't hard enough :). That's why they were asking for more interviews. I feel better about it now and a little disappointed at the same time. I'll find out tomorrow from the second HC what the verdict is. Hopefully it means I'm at least looking at an offer or more interviews instead of an immediate rejection.
    Jul 8 7
    • Google fGWF77
      What was the final result?
      Jul 10
    • FJA sm1001
      OP
      Still waiting. They pushed my second HC another day or so because of the holiday weekend. They said they're a little behind this week and playing catch up. They've been keeping me updated though. It's taking a long time, but I would definitely give them an A+ for being polite and professional and always keeping me in the loop. My recruiter has been pretty awesome.
      Jul 10
    • Clever Devices dvmf13
      Thanks and good luck
      Jul 10
    • FJA sm1001
      OP
      Made it! They're writing me an offer now. :) Excited to see what they come in at with compensation.
      Jul 11
    • Google fGWF77
      Congrats! Feel free to dm if you want comp eval and tips.
      Jul 11
  • Gap / Eng randUser
    Recruiter said he would do something similar for me, another HC in a different location bc Pittsburgh had no headcount. But... They never went through with it because nobody else had head count
    Jul 7 5
    • New sm1001
      OP
      I'm going for a position in Austin. What do you mean by saying that they had no headcount? Does that mean they're not sure how many positions they have open to fill? My team hiring manager said they're trying to double their size over the next year so hopefully there's no issue with them having room for me.
      Jul 7
    • Gap / Eng randUser
      There was next to no L3 headcount from April until maybe august
      Jul 7
    • Google jhgb
      Why would anyone want to live in Pittsburg
      Jul 7
    • Gap / Eng randUser
      Pittsburgh* and it was nice and close to my family and girlfriend. Moving to Seattle tho anyways
      Jul 7
    • ANSYS lmopqrstui
      @jhgb it has a lot cost of living.
      Jul 7
  • Goldman Sachs faith91
    How long did it take for you in the Team Matching phase?
    Jul 7 1
    • New sm1001
      OP
      Only 2 days. My recruiter posted my info where teams can see it at the end of the day and the next morning he already had 2 teams wanting to talk to me (he also said these are the only 2 teams currently hiring in Austin - not sure if that's true or not). He scheduled me for interviews with them the next day and they both told my recruiter that they wanted me right after my interviews. One of the team hiring managers that interviewed me told me that my on site interview results were very impressive and that he definitely wanted me on his team. I hope that wasn't just to entice me to choose his team over the other one, but after my first miss at hiring committee I'm wondering if that's the case.
      Jul 7
  • Google fGWF77
    I've served on hc before. The situation you describe is possible to occur. If your ratings are what you say they are, then you shouldn't have much worry. Good luck!
    Jul 7 4
    • New sm1001
      OP
      Well that's good news! Thank you for your take on my situation. That's what I was hoping. I was feeling confident going into HC, but then I was having second thoughts about whether my scores were really that great because of the issue I had at my first HC. I've been trying to figure out what my chances are given my interview ratings, but my recruiter hasn't been comfortable saying how strong they think my chances are, which I understand. This makes me feel a little better. I'm just really hoping for this job so I've been nervous about it.
      Jul 7
    • Google fGWF77
      Nah sometimes there's a single holdout because of nits in the transcribed code and they just can't be convinced. HC is supposed to reach consensus. So sometimes they defer the decision up or to another committee
      Jul 7
    • New sm1001
      OP
      The only other thing I thought was odd is that after the hold at the first HC, my recruiter said that my packet was being sent to someone higher up who would either just approve me to move to the next stage themselves or agree to the additional interviews requested by HC and instead they sent me to the second HC. I hope I'm not reading into that too much. I figured that either meant that they weren't impressed enough with me to approve me themselves or that they just really like to follow the process and wanted HC to give a final decision to stick to normal procedure.
      Jul 7
    • Google fGWF77
      HCs have sent candidates for add'l interviews in the past and almost always they come back with no real signal, so they're usually a waste of time.
      Jul 7
  • Teradata RiTO04
    @op what are the teams of Google in Austin ? I am curious to know
    Jul 7 1
    • New sm1001
      OP
      I'm sure there are other teams, but the ones I talked to are Google Cloud and Legal Works. Apparently the Legal Works team is distributed across multiple locations though.
      Jul 7
  • Dell LUHV04
    So you can get hired if you have 3 out of 5 good interviews?
    Jul 7 1
    • New sm1001
      OP
      They rate each interview based on a 4 category system. The 4 categories may have official names, but I've heard them described as Strong Do Not Hire, Do Not Hire (but could be convinced otherwise), Hire (but could be convinced otherwise), and Strong Hire. So the top 2 categories are both good, but one is better than the other. So basically I had 2 good interviews and 3 really good interviews. The scary thing about hiring committee is that I've heard stories of people getting rejected with all Strong Hire interviews and also of people getting hired with mostly bad interview ratings, but that is supposed to be rare. I think HC has discretion to base their decision on interview results or on anything else they think is more important in a candidate's hiring packet. It sounds like in most cases (from talking to people on various forums, so it's anecdotal and should be taken with a grain of salt) that having at least 1 or 2 Strong Hire interviews and the rest as Hire interviews is enough to pass HC (at least in the L3/L4 interview loop - I don't know what the standard is when hiring at higher levels, but I'm sure it becomes more stringent).
      Jul 7
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