L3 Google Cloud SWE in Kirkland Initial offer is 114k base, 143k Stock, 20k sign on. I have competing offers within Microsoft and one of the potential Microsoft managers is keen on competing with my Google. Thoughts, tips on negotiations?
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Is Amazon really that bad if you work 60-80 hour weeks anyway?
Microsoft's new grad offer could beat this if you play it well. not far off from standard new grad offer (109/120/25)
Agreed, OP may also have some experience
My friend got L61 offer last week with just 35k stocks over 4 years. Another friend got L60 with 30k stocks. Amazon pays more than Microsoft (generally across all levels) and they offer 70-75k worth of stocks to new grads. Are you sure new grads get 120k? Are these the ex-interns or everybody gets them?
1.5 years experience :/ so sadly it’s an internal transfer with a Microsoft manager willing to negotiate with G. I basically just let the Google recruiter know that I have competing offers, and the Google recruiter let me know that he would look into it.
Try to get L4
With only 1.5 yoe and they're offering that low of base and stocks? OP's got no chance at L4
Google stays lowballing people, smh
I got same sign on, 2k more on base, 55k more on stock. 1 YoE, no competing offers. I was able to get more sign on just by asking my recruiter for more but not sure if they'll budge on stock.
How did you prep. while you were getting 1 YOE? Have about 6 months of experience now and want to start prepping by reading CTCI and leetcode grind. Good approach?
Leetcode, USACO problems. Did a couple personal projects and made sure story was on point.
It's 178 + sign on. It's a decent offer. I know L61s at Microsoft who make less than this. Once you join and read internal pay comparison sheet, you'll know how people bullshit on blind. Keep in mind, Microsoft refreshers will be shitty.
UPDATE: My recruiter at Microsoft is working on an entirely new offer to compete with Google’s. Hoping that I can bid up Goog with it.
UPDATE: this scheme seems to be working its magic a bit... Google recruiter seems willing to bump it up. Says it’s “doable”
YOE?