Compensation

Google L3 offer eval

Microsoft PevQ86
Jan 11

Mostly providing this as a data point for others currently in the process of negotiating.

3 yoe, location Seattle

128k/295k equity/50k signing/15 percent bonus

221k tc, 233k if you split the signing over 4 years

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  • Google Mmkaay
    What level at Microsoft?
    Jan 113
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      60
      Jan 11
    • Google Mmkaay
      I think that is a great offer then. Congrats!
      Jan 11
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      Thank you!
      Jan 11
  • Google yodeling
    How did you get that high equity for L3?
    Jan 119
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      I had a counter offer which I used as a starting point, then negotiated upward
      Jan 11
    • Google yodeling
      Ohh ok. Who was the counter offer from? Since I heard Google negotiates only for counters from a small set of companies.
      Jan 11
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      Amazon, I got an sde2 offer from them
      Jan 11
    • Google yodeling
      Ohh. Then I feel you should have taken Amazon. Google downleveled you. Also you will be looking at a big cliff in year 4.
      Jan 11
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      I'm currently 60 (sde1) at Microsoft so it'd be a same level. I thought about Amazon but I felt that company culture has more value than raw tc once you're past a certain point
      Jan 11
    • Google yodeling
      Well honestly, having worked at Amazon and Google, I think both Amazon and Google are now big enough that teams/orgs have their own culture rather than company culture. My first team at G had worst culture and wlb than even fb I would say, my current team is slightly better on culture but we'll is still pathetic.

      Also I would say Sde 1/2 is too low level to think about the culture. I would rather go where I would learn more and fast.
      Jan 12
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      That makes sense. The other reason for me was just I have more friends at Google, and the soft perks of being at Google had value to me. I'm confident I can reach l4 in a reasonable amount of time.
      Jan 12
    • Google yodeling
      Cool. Welcome to Google.
      Jan 12
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      Good to be aboard!
      Jan 12
  • Amazon Yawbus
    What was the initial offer?
    Jan 111
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      Same but with 265k equity
      Jan 11
  • Google / Eng
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    Very good.
    Jan 110
  • Goldman Sachs XzxU53
    That’s a lot of stocks
    Jan 110
  • New / Eng
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    Very solid offer for L3. Congrats
    Jan 110
  • Microsoft
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    Probably better than any L60 at Microsoft. Nice!
    Jan 110
  • Amazon / Engjdbsbsh30
    I’m in Seattle at a similar experience level and was offered 120/180/30. Does this mean I was a low-balled or did you just do really well?
    Jan 144
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      Did you have counter offers
      Jan 14
    • Amazon / Engjdbsbsh30
      No but it’s lower than my current comp. currently negotiating.
      Jan 14
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      I wish you good luck. I had a counter offer that I used as leverage
      Jan 14
    • Amazon / Engjdbsbsh30
      Thanks!
      Jan 15
  • Facebook Besdssd
    Did you negotiate or was that first offer?
    Jan 111
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      I had a counter offer and I negotiated upward
      Jan 11
  • Intel Intelegacy
    Yearly bonus %?
    Jan 111
    • Microsoft PevQ86
      OP
      Updates with 15%
      Jan 11

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