Google L3 vs Amazon L5 || SDE

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jtYT72

New Eng

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Samsung Electronics, Symantec
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Feb 5 19 Comments

About Me:
Currently a graduate student with 4+ yoe (all in well-known technology MNCs)

Please help me in selecting the below offers. Both are in Bay Area
Amazon -- SDE2
(Alexa AI team)
TC -- not discussed yet. (expecting 200-260K)

Google -- L3
Currently, in the team matching process. As per the recruiter, AI teams require a PhD, so an AI/ML team is unlikely.
TC -- not discussed. The recruiter said anything above 200k is very difficult for an L3 when we discussed TC expectation.

What would you choose? I would appreciate if you could share the thought process behind that decision?

Cheers!

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  • Amazon Northman
    My take - a great team at Amazon is much better than a mediocre team at Google. And coming in a level higher is a big step up. And working in a domain you love is priceless.
    Feb 5 0
  • Amazon ydoxd
    If you think you will do core AI work in Amazon you are dreaming ...

    Even MLE only writes python script for algo decided by a PhD scientist
    Feb 5 2
    • New / Eng
      jtYT72

      New Eng

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      Samsung Electronics, Symantec
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      OP
      Thank you for responding. I am well aware of the fact that I will not be doing any modeling work at Amazon.
      Although I believe that working in this domain even as an SDE and acquiring domain knowledge might help me future roles with companies who look for candidates with a good balance of both software development and applied ML/AI skills.
      Still not sure if I should leave Google for Amazon.
      Feb 5
    • Amazon Northman
      To double click on this - this is not totally true in Alexa AI in Bay Area. There are SDEs that work on some modeling projects and collaboration between scientists and engineers is quite close since it is a smaller group.
      Feb 5
  • Amazon djsjsjsj
    Seems very likely your l5 amazn offer number will be higher than your l3 google.
    Feb 5 0
  • Google sVFP15
    They will match Amazon and take Google
    Feb 5 7
    • Yahoo / Eng
      turkie

      Yahoo Eng

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      Yahoo
      turkiemore
      Sadly my L3 TC from G was lower than the offered base of L5 at A. Both in the Seattle area. Recruiter encouraged me to apply next year for L4.
      Feb 5
    • Uber MKXK34
      I got L3 with around 275k total comp a few weeks ago. Just need to negotiate
      Feb 5
    • VMware / Eng andor
      Uber, did you have a competing offer?
      Feb 5
    • Uber MKXK34
      Yup. Had quite a few other offers
      Feb 5
    • AQR gjkcl
      Uber, what was the number G came up with before you negotiated? Also how many yoe?
      Feb 6
  • Amazon hi2019
    Amazon
    Feb 5 0
  • Oath hKwe44
    Have you considered the question of what do you want to do? You seem very AI wanting, so even if you took Google, would you be okay not doing AI? Also, heard work life at Google > Amazon, from friends at both.
    Feb 5 0
  • Microsoft / Eng Tillicum
    Google of course. 2 years there and you'll get a much higher offer at any other company.
    Feb 6 0
  • Honestly Google overpays it's AI people because that's the CEO's vocational training.
    Feb 5 0
  • Amazon / Eng Awski
    Amazon
    Feb 5 0
  • Amazon eoepe
    Google
    Feb 5 0

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