Google L4 PM Offer

Amazon green209
Jun 12 27 Comments

Base: 135
Stock 100k total (25k/yr)
15% expected bonus
No signing
Total TC = 180K

For MTV or potentially NYC (team needs in either)

Product manager not project

6 YoE as a PM, 3 at MS 3 at AMZN. This seems really bad to me, thoughts? Not sure on PM L4 paybands

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  • Facebook tantan85
    That is realllllllly low....
    Jun 12 0
  • Apple &-919”1
    This is low. I have seen google have been lowballing lately
    Jun 12 0
  • Nutanix / Eng gxbhsekmsa
    Pretty damn low, disappointed in G’s lowballing lately. What’s your background education wise? Is all of your work experience strictly 6 years as a PM?
    Jun 12 3
    • Amazon green209
      OP
      Nah I worked as a flight attendant for a couple years before that but seems not relevant to tech. Just a BA, no masters
      Jun 12
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

      Microsoft Product

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      Brazukamore
      How does one go from flight attendant to a PM?
      Jun 13
    • Amazon green209
      OP
      I dunno ask MS
      Jun 13
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    shizzle

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    shizzlemore
    That’s super low.
    Jun 12 3
    • Amazon green209
      OP
      Yeah I feel like I can't even negotiate because it's so low
      Jun 12
    • Pinterest
      shizzle

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      shizzlemore
      Even non-technical non-pm roles get paid more than that at Google lol. If I was in your shoes I wouldn’t know what to do either. If it’s higher than your current TC then perhaps take it and use it as leverage for the next position?
      Jun 12
    • Amazon green209
      OP
      Haha I make more at Amazon currently esp considering tax/col in NYC or MTV
      Jun 12
  • Microsoft / Product
    Brazuka

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    Brazukamore
    Wow, what a garbage offer. Looks like Google the new Microsoft. What's your level at Amazon? L5 or L6?
    Jun 12 2
    • Amazon green209
      OP
      L5
      Jun 12
    • Microsoft / Product
      Brazuka

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      Brazukamore
      Damn, youre getting screwed over at Amazon too. They hand out L6 offers to all freshly minted MBAs.
      Jun 12
  • Tesla mkjs98z
    Program?
    Jun 12 2
    • Amazon green209
      OP
      Product, sorry
      Jun 12
    • Tesla mkjs98z
      That seems surprising low for a product at google
      Jun 12
  • Salesforce / Eng Gjjdhjekej
    I thought product managers make more :) but doesn’t seem the case
    Jun 12 1
    • LinkedIn endamame
      They do this is an anomaly
      Aug 10
  • New / Eng blindor
    Any competing offers?
    Jun 12 1
    • Amazon green209
      OP
      Working on it currently. Makes it a bit harder bc I dont think I can use this 1 to drive up another offer and play them against each other
      Jun 12
  • Apple &-919”1
    This is Program manager or product?
    Jun 12 1
  • Oath Atinlay2
    It’s a PM job.
    Jun 12 0
  • Google / Product ☁️cloud
    Damn, this is a low-ball L4 offer, my friend. No signing seens really weird by the way.
    Jun 12 1
    • Amazon green209
      OP
      Yeah idk its bizarre because I honestly feel like I'm close to a borderline L5 and this seems like a bad L3 offer lol
      Jun 12
  • Microsoft / Product TeLangPu
    what a shit offer
    Aug 31 0
  • Google OAoK43
    Not sure about the offer. But PMs rise much much faster than Engineers.
    Jun 12 0

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