Google L5 manager TC

LinkedIn ----------
May 28, 2018 35 Comments

Got verbal confirmation from Google recruiter that I am approved for L5 manager. Recruiter wants to know my compensation expectations. How much should I ask?

My current comp (EM @ LinkedIn) is:
Base: 215K
Bonus 15%
RSU: approx $800K unvested (500K vesting in next 2 years)
Not counting ESPP gains which are not very large, but should be about $3.5k per year, give or take.

IOW my current tc is approx $500K each for next 2 years, then drops to 400K for following 2 years (I may get a refresher by then, who knows).

Would Google be able to meet/beat this comp? I do have few other offers but they are not that great. What are comp ranges for L5 at Google?

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TOP 35 Comments
  • Google yue
    500k for L5 looks too high. Google's range would be around 400k.
    May 28, 2018 6
    • Google Facebook
      Even 400k is a way too high for L5. Before sign on of course
      May 28, 2018
    • Google ●○●
      400k sounds high for L5 IC. Not sure if manager track is different. Curious to hear what you end up getting.
      May 28, 2018
    • Google yue
      Google doesn't have sign on for 2 years. Also as others have pointed, 400 is high end of L5. Sign ons are max of about $50k, more only in certain cases.
      May 29, 2018
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      Manager track is same
      May 29, 2018
    • Apple Applecamp
      Short answer is you won’t get more than 400k TC as L5 manager.
      Jun 8, 2018
  • New AUhn68
    Sounds like Google L5 would be a step down for you
    May 29, 2018 0
  • Google krs
    If they want you, they can definitely give you something like 190k base, 15-30% bonus, 800k+ RSU and up to 100k signing. It's definitely will above average, but sounds like you have the footing to negotiate it.
    May 29, 2018 3
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      Target bonus is fixed by level. What you end up getting is based on performance.
      May 29, 2018
    • LinkedIn ----------
      OP
      Anyone know the target bonus for l5 & l6?
      May 29, 2018
    • Google krs
      L5: 15%
      L6: 20%

      Typical multipliers range from 1x to 1.7x for meets to superb. Can be lower if you suck.
      May 30, 2018
  • Brocade rwang
    800k unvested stock looks nice. Is that usual at em levels at LinkedIn? Is that a function of msft stock growth?
    May 29, 2018 2
    • LinkedIn ----------
      OP
      I don't believe it is usual. This was a function of couple quick promotion and sign on unvested stocks. About 15% or so may be because of stock price growth.
      May 29, 2018
    • Microsoft azureg
      Microsoft people worked hard to make LinkedIn folks rich.
      May 3
  • Facebook gLKg44
    Your current comp is in the L6 range. It will be very hard for Google to match that at L5, but good luck! Keep us updated.
    May 30, 2018 2
    • Facebook mEKO20
      How's Google L5 manager compared to FB? M0 or M1?
      May 30, 2018
    • Facebook gLKg44
      M0
      May 30, 2018
  • New harryi
    Check out http://levels.fyi, seems like it would cap out at around 400K
    May 29, 2018 2
    • LinkedIn ----------
      OP
      Yeah, looked at that.. Want sure how accurate that is, but based on comments in this thread it seems quite accurate
      May 29, 2018
    • Google tcCd20
      I know someone who negotiated around 430 tc. With competing offer from fb at the time
      May 29, 2018
  • Intel letschange
    Any updates? Thanks !
    Jun 13, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn ----------
    OP
    I had a chat with my recruiter and have given my expected numbers. She asked me how I arrived at the numbers, and gave her the math based on my current comp (I guess they can't ask current comp any more, but you can offer to tell that in your own).

    Recruiter didn't say anything, whether it's in the upper end or what.. she said she will ask the "compensation committee" (?) and get back.
    May 29, 2018 2
    • LinkedIn emmanuelle
      Is the L5 manager interview the same as L5 SWE?
      May 29, 2018
    • LinkedIn ----------
      OP
      No, it's a mix of coding, design and management interviews.
      May 29, 2018
  • Uber jWjl78
    Why do you want to switch? Atleast you are compensated good enough
    May 28, 2018 2
    • LinkedIn ----------
      OP
      Comp is good, I always have the option of staying if the competing offers are not as good. Just want to try something different, new challenge.
      May 28, 2018
    • MuleSoft BarcMeniof
      I think you may be better off staying for 1 or 2 years more
      May 28, 2018
  • Microsoft Drake09
    Hey OP, how many years of total experience do you have?
    May 29, 2018 1
  • Amazon bkhigkg
    Update?
    Jan 5 0
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    sdca1more
    tell them to match else just don’t go. at your level no need to be humble bragging lol
    Jun 8, 2018 0
  • Apple Chewbak
    So what is the update? Did they increase your offer based on your current comp? Are you still joining as L5?
    Jun 5, 2018 0
  • Facebook mEKO20
    @op how much management experience do you have? I thought Google only wants to hire senior manager or director.
    May 30, 2018 0
  • Google EFKx36gg
    215k is way out of the range. Even 180k would be considered high. If they can match TC you'd be lucky.
    May 29, 2018 0