Google L5/L6 offer

Apple pupl22
Jun 27, 2018 32 Comments

I’m negotiating 410K TC with Google and the recruiter has told me this falls in L6 bucket and so I need to interview again for that level because I was initially interviewed for L5.
I have no hesitation in going for another round though.

Should I push for this TC under L5 or is it better that I go for the second round to get to L6?

My understanding is that 410K is not impossible for L5, but it’s very though as it’s at the border of L5 and L6. The question is assuming that I finally get the same TC, in long term is it better to start with end of L5 or beginning of L6?

Edit: I don’t have the breakdown yet. We are still negotiating the TC.

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TOP 32 Comments
  • Amazon / Eng @!)6££><>
    OP, current TC and yoe?
    Jun 27, 2018 5
    • Apple pupl22
      OP
      Why is that important?
      Jun 27, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng @!)6££><>
      It’s not, just for my reference.
      Jun 27, 2018
    • Postmates jz@7kwv2
      And it's blind etiquette
      Jun 27, 2018
    • Apple pupl22
      OP
      Don’t have the bd yet.
      Jun 27, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng .co.uk
      Bro that wasn’t the question. What is your current TC at Apple and how many totally years of experience do you have?
      Jun 27, 2018
  • Oracle Sebseb
    What’s the breakdown ?
    Jun 27, 2018 5
    • Apple pupl22
      OP
      Why does that matter?
      Jun 27, 2018
    • LinkedIn / Eng Ohio kid
      Because if you want people to help you, it’s not too much to ask for some info to help everyone with their negotiation and expectations.
      Jun 27, 2018
    • Postmates jz@7kwv2
      Lol exactly! If the details don't matter then delete your post and GTFO
      Jun 27, 2018
    • Google / Eng 857woo
      It does actually matter because salary vs stock impact how real the "in the L6 band" comment is. Also it's pretty rude to ask advice about hiring and pay but be unwilling to share details yourself. :P
      Jun 27, 2018
    • Apple pupl22
      OP
      I am not unwilling to share. Wanted to know how the breakdown can impact the decision between L5 vs L6.
      I don’t have the breakdown yet because we are not yet on the same page in terms of TC.
      Jun 27, 2018
  • Guys give me advice/answers but don't ask me questions because I'm gonna say "why does that matter" / "why is that important"
    Jun 27, 2018 2
    • Apple pupl22
      OP
      Very unfair. People who asked question didn’t give advice. Regardless, I asked why the breakdown matters in the decision process. Didn’t say that they shouldn’t ask for the breakdown. Didn’t provide the info because I don’t have a breakdown yet. Still negotiating the TC.
      Jun 28, 2018
    • Didn't want to offend you but you could have said the same thing when others asked you about TC earlier. Your replies to their questions sounded rude. As someone wrote earlier breakdown does matter for band and that way people can answer you better.
      Jun 28, 2018
  • LinkedIn Suckstobme
    AFAIK l5->l6 is pretty hard
    Jun 27, 2018 0
  • Fitbit Retiree
    Should have gone for 420 😂
    Jun 27, 2018 2
    • Apple pupl22
      OP
      Nope, I’m waiting for next 420 to ask for 420 at 420
      Jun 27, 2018
    • Uber suckerbur
      You should get high when you do 420/420/420
      Jun 30, 2018
  • Google / Eng Montag
    Promo from L5>L6 is notoriously difficult and luck dependent (good project). If you intend to keep climbing the ladder then come in at 6 if you can.

    It also sounds like there's very little downside to you going in again and staying at L5 if things don't go so well (compared to your current situation).
    Jun 27, 2018 0
  • LinkedIn Wbxiwq
    Could try for L6. It will be way harder to get to L6 once you're inside. And if you get L6, you probably could ask for even more.
    Jun 27, 2018 0
  • Lyft Lyftsoft
    410 not including signing would be very high percentile for l5. But I think this is possible.
    Jun 27, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Yesiam
    Even L4 can get 410
    Jun 27, 2018 1
  • Marvell Edit
    You’re being too greedy. Just be thankful for the offer and accept it.
    Jun 29, 2018 0
  • Uber pmo
    If you are confident and don't mind interview again, why not try L6 interview and push for even higher than 410?
    Jun 28, 2018 0
  • Cisco / Product zettabyte
    Hi Op, how did it go? I am In the same boat now!
    Aug 1, 2018 3
    • New tatale
      Me too now... How about you, can you please update? Did you go for second round of interviews for l6? How did it go?
      Sep 14, 2018
    • Jet.com / Eng OeLx34
      This *
      Dec 30, 2018
    • Microsoft Satya007
      Updates on this anyone?!
      Jun 11
  • Nvidia mDHh63
    Go with L5 as you will be compared with people at that level and expectations will be lower. You will also have more room to grow. All based on you can get the same TC.
    Jun 27, 2018 1
    • Apple pupl22
      OP
      Can you elaborate on the growth opportunities for L5? My understanding is that this is already the very high end of L5 and going to L6 is very difficult.
      Jun 28, 2018

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