Google L6

Oracle javaguy
Oct 23, 2018 45 Comments

Team matched and passed HC at Google for L6. Recruiter is asking for compensation expectations.
Have an Amazon L6 offer 185/320/400.

Can I use the Amazon offer to my advantage or will Google low ball?

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TOP 45 Comments
  • Google nopenop
    400k sign on?
    Anyway that seems more like a L5 offer at Google, I don't think Google will try to low-ball you to that point.
    Oct 23, 2018 15
    • Amazon / Eng jNeo42
      That sign-on makes no sense in relation to the RSUs.
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Oracle javaguy
      OP
      They bumped up sign on after negotiations.
      Oct 23, 2018
    • New / Eng poRd04
      Fuck! Amazon give a sign-on of 320k??
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Tesla Model-3
      This is to compensate their ridiculous vesting schedule.
      Oct 23, 2018
    • New / Eng poRd04
      Yes, but still too risky, if you leave or get fired before 2 years, you'll lose almost all of it.
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Amazon Wonxdj
      Never seen such sign on, maybe you added a zero in error?
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Oracle javaguy
      OP
      Initial sign-on was 210, increased to 320 (170 y1 + 150 y2)
      Oct 23, 2018
    • New / Eng poRd04
      So if you leave after 1 year, will at least get 170k. That's insanely good.
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Just negotiate based on average TC over 4 yrs and don't go into breakdown of numbers
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Salesforce yessss123
      L5 sign on(400k) meaning Base Salary ?
      Feb 12
  • Google BziK43
    320k signon sounds like crazy. In my opinion, 320k signon is much bigger than 320k rsu, as you can always use those cash to buy stock if you want.
    Oct 23, 2018 2
    • Facebook blowwww
      320k for 2 years
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Facebook / Eng
      lezgo ⛷

      Facebook Eng

      PRE
      Google
      lezgo ⛷more
      they do high signing (split over 2 years) to try to make up for the shitty 5/15/40/40 vesting schedule
      Oct 23, 2018
  • Facebook blowwww
    Nope. Your Amazon offer is hardly 345K while google l6 can be 450k+..
    Oct 23, 2018 0
  • Oracle javaguy
    OP
    Any advice on what to respond on "expectations"
    Should I even bring up the Amazon numbers?
    Oct 23, 2018 6
    • Facebook blowwww
      Dont bring up Amazon please.. just say I am expecting 500k, waiting for offers from other companies. I will accept first offer close to my expectations.
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Facebook blowwww
      Yoe?
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Facebook blowwww
      Is it gcp?
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Oracle javaguy
      OP
      Yes, GCP. Does it make a difference vs rest of Google?
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Facebook blowwww
      Yoe and your current compensation please?
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Oracle javaguy
      OP
      20 Yoe. Currently IC-5 at Oracle,TC 230K
      Oct 23, 2018
  • Google topCon
    Op, Google L6 is minimum 400. You should ask for at least 450. I wouldn't bring up Amazon's offer, your recruiter knows Amazon can't compete.
    Oct 23, 2018 2
    • Apple
      ChargerB

      Apple

      BIO
      Coder by day, musician at night
      ChargerBmore
      Can you please break down by base+sign-on+rsu
      Jan 21
    • Google topCon
      200 base, 20% bonus, rest are RSUs
      Jan 21
  • Google / Eng percocet
    Yoe?
    Oct 23, 2018 1
    • Photon Interactive / IT
      realblack1

      Photon Interactive IT

      PRE
      Wipro
      realblack1more
      Years of experience
      Oct 24, 2018
  • Amazon thealpha
    Congrats.. are both G and Amzn positions for SWE ICs?
    Oct 23, 2018 2
    • Oracle javaguy
      OP
      Yes
      Oct 23, 2018
    • Amazon thealpha
      Do you mind sharing your YoE? What level in Oracle? Thanks!
      Oct 23, 2018
  • Brocade romdom
    Location? SEA vs. MTV makes a difference
    Oct 23, 2018 1
    • Oracle javaguy
      OP
      Bay area
      Oct 23, 2018
  • Akamai Technologies unionfind
    Yoe?
    Oct 23, 2018 1
  • Amazon Wonxdj
    Wow that’s really good sign on, some people get that as TC
    Oct 24, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng ijyh
    Surprised you cracked L6 at G but only got L6 at Amazon.
    May 5 1
    • Facebook / Eng qaq6w0
      Why surprise?
      May 8
  • Airbnb AirEvryWhr
    Don’t tell . It’s too low for L6.
    Mar 26 0
  • Axon / Design
    yyyyyyyyyi

    Axon Design

    PRE
    Axon, Uber, Facebook
    yyyyyyyyyimore
    Congratulations
    Feb 15 0
  • Criteo / R&D
    :o)

    Criteo R&D

    BIO
    Almost 20 years bay area
    :o)more
    So, what is the end result? In the similar negotiations now with similar YOE and level...
    Dec 4, 2018 0

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