Google Vs Amazon

Apple fung
Mar 5, 2018 18 Comments

Alexa team in Seattle just offered me an SDE2 position with 160k base.
105k sign on over two years and 96 shares.
Is this a good?

I also have a potential offer with Google in mountain view - but they'd like me to inform then what my expectations are first. Level should be a l4

What would be a good offer to compete with Amazon?

Update:
I offered Google the Amazon numbers, and they just got back.
145/280/20.

The recruiter did mention that because my Amazon offer is "quite high" I wouldn't be getting increments in the following year as salaries/cash flow are capped.

Seems like a valid point, and I'm also factoring in I could maybe move to Kirkland in a few years to offset cost of living?

Also, this was the final offer apparently.

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  • Amazon 🔥Fi
    2 extra things you might want to consider once you get the Google offer with compensation. 1) WA doesn't have Income Tax which translates into a larger take home amount. 2) Seattle is not cheap but is definitely cheaper than the Bay area, especially rent.
    Mar 6, 2018 0
  • Amazon gte305f
    Keep in mind Amazon uses stock value at time of vesting for total comp calculation. You will not likely see refreshers for salary in years 1-4 due to how well the stocks are doing. Looks like your TCT is just under 220K for Amazon.
    Mar 5, 2018 7
    • Amazon dalejrjr
      Beginning of third year but vesting in fifth year?
      Mar 6, 2018
    • Amazon gte305f
      But what was the vesting schedule on the fresher?
      Mar 6, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng RNBv18
      Got them in 2017, they start testing this year. 2 year schedule.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Amazon dalejrjr
      So you didn't get any extra stocks in your third year, you only got a promise that you'll get stocks in your fifth year.
      Mar 7, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng RNBv18
      Just checked Morgan Stanley. Got stocks on year 1.5, already vested once portion. And then another round at the 2.5 years mark, which will vest in my 5th year (next year)
      Mar 8, 2018
  • BitTitan cViM50
    160k base for SDEII. I heard max salary for amzn was around $165 so I'm curious as that seems super high..
    Mar 6, 2018 2
    • Amazon bratswurst
      ^ exactly! Base 160k for SDE2 is seriously high
      Mar 6, 2018
    • Apple fung
      OP
      The Google recruiter got back with the same comment. He said I may not get year on year increments at Amazon.
      Mar 8, 2018
  • Amazon biRJ17
    How many years of experience?
    Mar 5, 2018 1
    • Apple fung
      OP
      Close to 5. 2 years outside the states and close to 3 within.
      Mar 5, 2018
  • Amazon IyFB10
    96 over 4 years?
    Mar 5, 2018 1
    • Apple fung
      OP
      Yes. Amazon seems to have a standard 5/15/40/40 vesting structure.
      Mar 5, 2018
  • Turbonomic / Eng
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    I have an interview with them this week for the same sde 2 role. Would appreciate if you share some feedback and some insights on how the interview went.
    Thanks
    Mar 21, 2018 0
  • Qualcomm spot16
    Your google offer is low
    Mar 13, 2018 0