Google and Facebook L5s in Seattle, what is your TC?

Amazon / Eng gghde
Jul 24 23 Comments

Looking for greener pastures and work that would keep me energized. SDE 3. 14 yoe, 6 of them at Amazon.

In 2018 solved just a few LCs and failed F, U, G. Got offers from Msft and Oracle. Decided to stick with Amzn for a while.

TC ~320k. 160k base, the rest are RSUs. Hitting the next compensation cliff in 2021.

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  • Broadcom Ltd. tooktook
    Can you try cliff explanation in amazon?
    Jul 24 1
    • Amazon / Eng gghde
      OP
      Cliff is when your TC drops from 320k to 200k.
      Jul 25
  • Facebook AyyoLeMayo
    For 5, expect 300-450k TC, 400+ is usually for people with strong competing offers or downleveled 6 though
    Jul 24 0
  • Facebook / Eng 007xxx
    Recent offer I knew from FB for E5 is 215 base and 750/4 shares
    Jul 25 3
    • Facebook Pbuj80
      Geez this feels like e6 already
      Jul 25
    • Amazon / Eng gghde
      OP
      Is that in Seattle?
      Jul 27
    • Facebook / Eng 007xxx
      FB pays same all across US
      Jul 28
  • Facebook / Eng mturtle
    The standard starting offer for E5 is 170k + 400k RSU. With bonus is close to 300. They can go higher. I'm know of a 180+600 offer, and some people have mentioned higher ones as well (190+800), but i cant confirm those.
    Jul 24 2
    • Amazon / Eng gghde
      OP
      What is the upper limit for base in FB?
      Jul 25
    • Facebook / Eng mturtle
      I'm not sure what limit is. I have heard of 200k base for E5 offer, though in not sure if that's true.

      It's much easier to push for a higher RSU grant than a higher base during negotiations, so focus on RSU during negotiations.
      Jul 25
  • Facebook / Eng 007xxx
    If I join SDE 3 in Amazon now, how much can I expect?
    Jul 24 3
    • Facebook / Eng mturtle
      About 280k - 350k. Can go a higher but not easy. Amazon comp is less then FB comp, and there are no refreshers at amzn.
      Jul 24
    • Amazon tcobsessed
      There are refreshers, if your comp is less than target comp. In other words, it is not memoryless like in FB or G.
      Jul 24
    • Amazon / Eng gghde
      OP
      Some one posted that the range was revised, upper bound is 370k now.
      Jul 25
  • Amazon tcobsessed
    My friend also L6 at Amazon got 400k in non fang tier no idea company in Seattle as senior sde (comparable to L6). He didn’t know what to do and accepted it, since it was 30-40% more than his TC.
    Jul 24 3
    • Amazon / Eng gghde
      OP
      I got an offer for 420k from OCI. But decided to pass that time. They have annual vests, which I find too risky and inconvenient.
      Jul 25
    • Amazon / Eng gghde
      OP
      Was it HBO?
      Jul 25
    • Amazon tcobsessed
      420k indeed very good. Unless you are TT with TC >= 378k, one can risk for 420k.
      Jul 25
  • Facebook fyhfdyujg
    430ish this year.
    Jul 25 2
    • Amazon / Eng gghde
      OP
      Sounds like it could be a decent bump from my current TC, definitely worth trying and investing time in preparation. I heard bananas at FB are better than at Amazon, turns out it is true.
      Jul 25
    • Facebook fyhfdyujg
      I started at about 380, this is after some stock appreciation and several good reviews.
      Jul 25
  • Cadence 8175209
    How much LC you had done prior to 2018 lc to get into amzn?
    Jul 25 1
    • Amazon / Eng gghde
      OP
      0. Didn't spend time on preparation at all.
      Jul 27