Google asking for competing offer

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Applied Scientist - L5(double masters with PhD in machine learning) with 2 years experience before masters.

Amazon offer -
Base 160k
Y1 bonus 125k
Y2 bonus 110k
RSU 200 shares(~300k)
Standard amazon vesting

Google is asking for me to disclose this offer to give an offer. I took google interview before taking amazon one, I don't know why google is slow in releasing the offer and now I'm asked for my amazon offer.

1. Should I disclose my order including vesting schedule to Google
2. Is amazon TC same as Google TC?
3. Does disclosing my offer help me negotiate better with Google?
4. I don't know which position google is offering (for now it's seems like software engineer but not sure which level) can someone make a guess so I can understand better?

Thank you guys in advance. Blind really helped me get a great offer, with my poor negotiation skills I would definitely be low-balled if it wasn't for blind.

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  • LinkedIn / Other
    UpyB22

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    I think your google recruiter is trying to help you get a strong offer; they will use Your amazon offer to justify a strong google offer. Your google offer will be higher than the amazon one(I’ve never seen an amazon offer that beat a google offer)
    Mar 19 3
    • LinkedIn / Other
      UpyB22

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      One more thing; it doesn’t come out of a google recruiter’s wallet; there is no reason a google recruiter would lowball you. No one wants you at google more than your recruiter
      Mar 19
    • Amazon / Other ebrag2
      Yes the Google recruiter wants him, but to the lowest possible offer that the candidate will accept. Recruiters have two objectives, get the candidate to accept, but as low as possible.
      Mar 19
    • LinkedIn / Other
      UpyB22

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      Disagree; there’s only incentive to offer you as much as possible to get you to accept. Google recruiters are not incentivized to lowball you. They do need to justify a higher offer to their comp team though
      Mar 20
  • Northrop Grumman / Eng HowCouldYu
    Does the bonus get taxed?
    Mar 19 11
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng HowCouldYu
      Wait really!? What the flying fook
      Mar 19
    • Northrop Grumman / Eng HowCouldYu
      47% that’s like not even a bonus at all
      Mar 19
    • Arista Networks unVS80
      I thought bonus was taxed like regular income? Why 47% ?
      Mar 19
    • Amazon forceful
      Bonus is withheld at higher rate, but you'll get the 47%-actual rate back next tax szn
      Mar 19
    • Groupon STCO30
      It is ultimately taxed at your normal income tax rate come tax time. Withholding can vary depending on how your company handles the payment. Most companies will pay out the bonus on a separate check which will be withheld at the supplemental income withholding rate of 22% (which is likely actually under-withholding depending on your tax bracket). Higher withholding can occur if it is treated as regular income so the tax bracket is set assuming you make that much every paycheck resulting in a sky high withholding rate. Either way, the amount you owe is the same come April 15th.
      Mar 19
  • Amazon / Other ebrag2
    For me the basic rule no. 1 is, compensation is always specific to a role and position in a company. If you disclose your Amazon offer to the Google recruiter, what would it matter? I guess different role and position, besides totally different company.

    If at all I would only mention what you expect as total TC, regardless what others have put on the table. Otherwise it's apples and oranges.

    By disclosing you lower your negotiation position. Because what Google will do is probably top it up by 10%. But if you don't disclose it, who knows perhaps Goggle will offer you 30% more.
    Mar 19 0
  • Amazon TPMs
    Are they asking for a copy of offer letter or just to share numbers?
    Mar 19 1
    • Amazon
      Monday126

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      Just the numbers and vesting details.
      Mar 21
  • Amazon
    Monday126

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    Thanks you guys.
    Mar 21 0
  • Google camelCase
    Make sure you know what level G is offering and what is standard for that level. If different level they may lowball or refuse to match.
    For similar level I just sent the G recruiter the competing offer numbers and they matched the TC.
    Mar 19 0
  • Qualtrics / Sales
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    Does your offer have terms that doesn't allow disclosure? Regardless I don't believe disclosing your Amazon offer gives you significant negotiation power. Your recruiter is no more than just a messenger. You just need to build a strong case for yourself like what you do for promotion.
    Mar 19 0