Google cloud L6 role

Amazon Deaf Bezos
Nov 19, 2018 45 Comments

Current tc at Amazon ~250k SDE 3 here. Got past hiring committee at Google cloud for an L6 role. As I understand it's a staff engineer level. I am not sure of what a good range would be at this level in Seattle. Can others please guide me. I'd really appreciate some honest guidance. Also is Google cloud considered just like Google in the sense if people want to move around, or do you interview again. Thanks in advance.

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  • Amazon Deaf Bezos
    OP
    I don't want to reveal my current comp but I am afraid recruiter will ask for it. In that case I am adjusting tc so adding 30% on top gets me to 500k.
    Nov 19, 2018 9
    • Amazon Northman
      No. I got a strong counter offer from Amazon and stayed.
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      May I ask what is your level at amazon
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Amazon Northman
      Now L7. Was L6 when I started interviewing at Google. Was L7 by the time offer came in though thanks to Google's crazy slow process. Moving to G was always my backup plan if promo wasn't approved.
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      Thanks guys this is immensely helpful
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Google Bor
      Don't share your current level or comp. Focus on target comp otherwise you might just get a slight increase.
      Nov 20, 2018
  • Apple Yoman1
    Google L6 ~ 450-500k
    Nov 19, 2018 5
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      Is that in Seattle?
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Honeywell / Eng
      sbbs

      Honeywell Eng

      BIO
      Huh
      sbbsmore
      Are you kidding me?!
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Apple Yoman1
      True comp in Seattle
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Facebook Stiev
      Seattle or mtv it does not matter, same tc
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Apple Gg56fh
      Facebook seems to pay bay area salaries in Seattle area. Does Google do that too?
      Nov 20, 2018
  • Google qaws
    I plan salaries for L6 @ Google. I would say 450K is median. So you could get anywhere from 400K upward (the high end depends on competing offers and how desperately they need you).
    Nov 20, 2018 0
  • Amazon Northman
    Ask for 500k, settle for 400k. I had an L7 offer from Google, was well over 800k (Bay Area) for comparison. That was above band though. Search for the Google comp ultimate thread on Blind and realize that you need competing offers if you want top of band comp.
    Nov 19, 2018 0
  • Google yewneek
    Comp band @ L6 is large. It will depend on your current employer and yoe. You can negotiate a above band TC but know that you will have a big cliff after 2 years. Don't let recruiter fool you that refresh will make up the gap. The only option is if your manager is willing to bridge it using their discretionary budget assuming strong performance and criticality of role.
    Nov 19, 2018 3
    • Google yewneek
      I've seen comp in the range of high 300K to 800K for L6
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Amazon Northman
      800k is way above band. Google L7 top of target band is in the 700s. See ultimate engineering comp thread for L6 band. I am sure some L6 has received an 800k offer but that was because they were downleveled and had business critical skills and a VP approved it.
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      There are L7s making more but it takes a special grant from VP
      Nov 19, 2018
  • Amazon Wonxdj
    Congrats!🍾
    Nov 19, 2018 1
  • Google / Eng UUKg61
    Were you interviewed for SWE or SCE? L6 for SWE is a serious upgrade. Please recheck with the coordinator.
    Nov 19, 2018 3
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      Recruiter told me L6 on two separate occasions. I also think it's a serious uplevel
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Google / Eng UUKg61
      Level is fine . Role matters. Google cloud has many roles which are similar sounding.

      Congrats if you joining at L6 with SWE team, Awesome job done.
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      What is SCE btw?
      Nov 19, 2018
  • Isn't sde iii L5 at Google? How dis you manage to uplevel? Also, yoe?
    Nov 19, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Eng sde3
      All bands overlap, there is no 1-1 mapping.
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      15 years of experience
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Apple Gg56fh
      Congrats OP👍. Did you get Leetcode medium / hard questions in the interview? What kind of system design questions did they ask? Did you have competing offers?
      Nov 20, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng sde3
    Congrats. 250k for sde 3 at amzn is pretty messed up and you should move right away.
    Nov 19, 2018 1
    • Amazon Northman
      What sucks is external hired L6s (SDEs and SDMs) from 2-3 years ago are making 450-550k easily. But newly promoted L6s get bottom of target band comp. It is terribly unfair and the bands suck.
      Nov 19, 2018
  • Amazon 7slug
    When did you interview and when did you get a confirmation for HC from the recruiter? I'm awaiting an update from my interview early last week
    Nov 20, 2018 1
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      Interviewed in October and took 3 weeks to hear back
      Nov 20, 2018
  • Google / Ops Huhf13
    Are you sure about ladder?
    Nov 19, 2018 1
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      Yeah, it could be TSC or some other GBO ladder where comp is eng-1
      Nov 20, 2018
  • Facebook zzq86
    As others have said, at L6 you could easily get an offer for 500k+. However there is no reason they will offer that much given your current comp. You could believably stretch your current comp up to almost 400k. Your best bet would be to get at least one competing offer from somewhere that can also offer 500k at a comparable level like FB, Airbnb, Lyft, Twitter etc
    Nov 19, 2018 3
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      That depends on how or if I reveal my current comp. Since I have been arty amazon for long time I have good amount of stock to be vested.
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Facebook zzq86
      True, if you've been there as an L6 for a while you could believably be looking at 500k TC or more due to the stock price
      Nov 19, 2018
    • Google / Ops Huhf13
      That's assuming it's SWE
      Nov 20, 2018
  • Amazon thealpha
    Are you a new L6 at Amazon? 250K for L6 is the lower limit.
    Nov 19, 2018 1
    • Amazon Deaf Bezos
      OP
      Yes got promoted in 2016
      Nov 19, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng somecsdude
    G L6 is similar to A L7, pay can be +500k
    Nov 19, 2018 0