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Google employee: I was involved in the internal decisions involving James Damore, and it's terrible what we did...

Microsoft Senketzu
Jan 9

Saw this on other social media. Unverified, but apparently, a Reddit account validated as James Damore himself seems to vet some of the content.

Pretty disgusting if this is what things are coming to.

"I was involved in the internal decisions involving James Damore's memo, and it's terrible what we did to him.

First of all, we knew about the memo a month before it went viral. HR sent it up the reporting chain when he gave it as internal feedback, but we did nothing. There wasn't anything we could do, except admit to wrongdoing and lying to our employees. We just hoped that no one else would see his document.

Unfortunately, the memo started spreading within the company. The floodgates opened and previously silent employees started talking. To quell dissent, we: told executives to write to their employees condemning the memo; manipulated our internal Memegen to bias the ratings towards anti-Damore posts (the head of Memegen is an "ally" to the diversity cause); and gave every manager talking points on what to tell their reports about the memo. In all our communications, we concentrated on how hurt employees purportedly were and diverted attention from Google's discriminatory employment practices and political hegemony, never mind the science.

We needed to make an example of Damore. Looking for some excuse to fire him, we spied on his phone and computer. We didn't find anything, although our spying probably made his devices unusably slow, preventing him from organizing support within the company. When we did fire him, our reputation and integrity took a hit, but at least other employees were now afraid to speak up.

Firing him without an NDA was a huge risk though. He was a top performer and knew too many compromising secrets, like Dragonfly, the secret censored search project in China. He had also reported several legally dubious practices in Search that still exist. Only God knows why he never leaked Dragonfly or the other issues, but I think it's because he actually cared about Google.

Our response after we fired him was equally disgraceful. We were supposed to have a Town Hall TGIF to answer employees' questions about the controversy. However, after questions started coming in that we couldn't reasonably answer, we had to cancel it. We shifted the blame onto "alt-right trolls" and have avoided talking about it openly since then.

To control the narrative, we planted stories with journalists and flexed Google's muscles where necessary. In exchange for insider access and preferential treatment, all we ask for is their loyalty. For online media, Google's ads pay their paycheck and our search brings their customers, so our influence shouldn't be underestimated.

We dealt with his NLRB case in a similar way. People are ultimately lazy, so we found a sympathetic lawyer in the NLRB and wrote the internal NLRB memo for her. No one wanted to spend the effort to oppose it, despite it being laughably weak. Then, after Damore dropped his NLRB case and filed a class action lawsuit, we had the NLRB publicly release their memo. Our PR firms sent press releases saying "the NLRB ruled the firing legal", which was, of course, manufactured bullshit.

All of our scheming was over the phone, in deleted emails, or through an external PR firm, so we can deny all of it. Now that we've forced him into arbitration, we're close to screwing him over completely."

https://www.reddit.com/r/JamesDamore/comments/adpj0h/i_helped_google_screw_over_james_damore/

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  • Apple / EngEckel
    So, damores alt reddit account agrees with damore? How shocking!
    Jan 90
  • HP / EngModulus
    They should've just been honest instead of being a lying immoral piece of political shit. Google's CEO sounded hardly competent when he testified before Congress. At least CEO's like Zuckerberg and Elon sound technically smart.
    Jan 99
    • Oath / Engbadassmfer
      Why because sundar is not white? Asstard...
      Jan 9
    • HP / EngModulus
      ... really? You racist. Zuckerberg is Jewish and Elon is African, of course not.
      Jan 9
    • Bose bosebose
      But they are both Caucasian and sundae is not
      Jan 9
    • HP / EngModulus
      Your point?
      Jan 9
    • DoubleVerify Karius123
      LMAO at Elon being African. Who thought a white guy from a country that systematically discriminated against non-whites would be a good example.
      Jan 9
    • HP / EngModulus
      Correction - *from a country who systematically discriminates against whites*. Read about the South African white farmer expropriation.
      Jan 9
    • Oath / Engbadassmfer
      Modulus , you are racist for sure.
      Jan 9
    • HP / EngModulus
      Troll. I judge people by competence. Don't give a crap about anything else except that they don't have bad breath when they're close.
      Jan 9
    • Oath / Engbadassmfer
      I hate when some people smell like mayonnaise
      Jan 9
  • Microsoft / EngDr. 13
    This sounds utterly made up. But ok.
    Jan 90
  • Google Uvor31
    Lolol. Damore was never highly rated perf wise, not even remotely in the promixity to dragonfly org wise which I don't even know if it was started at that point, and so low on the totem pole that to one even cared wtf he was saying or doing until he decided to megaphone it to everyone. The notion of some secret cabal watching his every move is so laughable that it should be the story arc for the next Sillicon Valley season.
    Jan 92
    • Google anons2
      What were his ratings? It's pretty objective... Either they were above CME or they weren't
      Jan 10
    • his rating was above CME & dragonfly existed at least from Q1 2017 onwards
      Jan 11
  • Microsoft Senketzu
    OP
    Damore's reply:
    Jan 90
  • eBay / Eng
    tcyoegtfo

    eBayEng

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    eBay
    tcyoegtfomore
    Where the fuck is New York Times now? Motherfuckers.
    Jan 92
    • Google 1234-/:;(
      Busy reporting the shutdown
      Jan 9
    • eBay / Eng
      tcyoegtfo

      eBayEng

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      eBay
      tcyoegtfomore
      They stoop so low that they use Blind’s posts to create a story. I bet reddit is more credible than Blind. Lol
      Jan 9
  • Bose bosebose
    This sounds like one of the typical alt right fake conspiracy theories with 0 verifiable facts
    Jan 90
  • Collective Health makeMeKing
    Liberals don’t want to admit they’ve been lead to believe a lie
    Jan 90
  • Apple / EngEckel
    I mean, the alt right would go so far as to say that Sandy Hook was a “false flag”, but an anonymous Reddit account is gospel!
    Jan 91
    • New DuQvV7x
      Dammit. I just posted the same thought. Now I have to delete my isht
      Jan 9
  • Cisco Infensus
    I support Damore but that shit sounds so fake.
    Jan 90
  • Salesforce rcno01
    James Damore is so 2017
    Jan 92
    • HP / EngModulus
      Make James Damore Great Again!
      Jan 9
    • Google NBwU26
      This slogan is so 2015
      Jan 9
  • Flagged by the community.

  • LinkedIn / Productgassoup
    Sounds like complete bullshit to me.
    Jan 90
  • Oath / Engbadassmfer
    k
    Jan 90
  • New / Product
    llluminati

    NewProduct

    BIO
    I make stuff and I’m super into it.
    llluminatimore
    Its pretty obvious with a weak CEO people are scrambling to win the upper hand, and the SJWs are firmly in control. The walkout was a front, next thing you know theyre walking out about how contractors are treated. It’s all a ruse to win the upper hand by any means necessary because the CEO is weak. Hiring committee started to ensure this groupthink continues.
    Jan 100
  • New DuQvV7x
    I find this anonymous, unsourced document highly believable.

    Unlike the elaborately staged false flag that was Sandy Hook.
    Jan 90
  • Amazon / Engsde3
    🍿🍿🍿
    Jan 90
  • Salesforce
    lozere

    Salesforce

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    lozeremore
    It doesn't matter if Damore was right or wrong. Google is a tech company and at the end of the day want to retain key employees to do better tech. If he is causing such a stir among the rest of the employees then they would eliminate him to retain the peace. That simple. Corporations are not about Justice.
    Jan 104
    • Amazon Gwaith
      It wasn't really "a stir among the rest of the employees" though, it was a relatively small number of people orchestrating the outrage (whether or not the outrage was justified.)
      Jan 10
    • Salesforce
      lozere

      Salesforce

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      lozeremore
      Didn't know that. The press made it appear that lots of googlers were upset by the stuff he wrote. Even if they were not orchestrating the outrage. Why else would it go viral?
      Jan 10
    • Amazon Gwaith
      To be clear, I don't have any inside knowledge of what happened at Google, but big pile-ons are always orchestrated by a relatively small number of very vocal people. Then everyone else is forced to publicly takes sides.
      Jan 10
    • Salesforce
      lozere

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      lozeremore
      Either ways, it stirred up (actively or passively) a bunch of people and they probably just wanted to keep their employees and share holders happy.

      Else he could be isolated on the IC track with just no managerial promotion to work on cool stuff, and make no hiring or promo decisions. Firing was a hyperbole action.
      Jan 10
  • Palo Alto Networks QmGO13
    I hope the truth is someday revealed
    Jan 90
  • MediaMath / EngFoKJ16
    Amateur fake news
    Jan 90
  • CenturyLink / LegalCWeh32
    Lol @ working at oath and not being embarrassed to let people know it
    Jan 90
  • Expedia Sharknado
    K
    Jan 90
  • Amazon Gwaith
    Anyone from Google?
    Jan 90
  • OpenDoor lkkeipeks
    Damore wrote it under a fake account. Posted the reply using his real identity. Classic dck move
    Jan 90
  • Amazon 401knoob
    Who?
    Jan 90
  • Apple nmgfd
    🍿🍿🍿🍿
    Jan 90
  • New conga
    Wild
    Jan 90

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